Re: [OSM-talk] stalking, or stepping on someone's toes (area) ?

2019-09-21 Thread Oleksiy Muzalyev
It is also possible to see changes in a certain area at this page: 
https://simon04.dev.openstreetmap.org/whodidit/


If you do an on-the-ground survey of bus stops you can use some quality 
tools. For example, a GPS handheld device Garmin eTrex Touch 35, a 
portable digital camera Sony RX100, a portable quad-copter for aerial 
images DJI Spark with a portable helipad (no affiliation to any). This 
equipment fits into a small urban backpack and lasts forever. Or you can 
use just a smartphone with a photo-camera.


You can make quality HD images of bus stops, so that their titles are 
readable. Then apply the geographical coordinates from the GPS handheld 
device to the images, - it could be done automatically. The aerial 
images from Spark do have coordinates by itself. You may publish these 
images to the Wikimedia commons category for this village or a district 
of a town, and add the image link to the bus stop on the OSM map.


So your survey would be well documented, and it would be hard to argue 
that there is no bus stop at this place, if you provide the ground photo 
of the stop with the stop's name and the GPS coordinates, an aerial 
image of this stop, so that its location relative to other objects is 
clearly visible.


You can also go around the bus stop 3 - 4 times slowly while recording a 
GPS trace with the GPS handheld device. The you can publish this GPS 
trace to the OpenStreet map. And you and others will see clearly where 
the bus stop is located.


It would be much better then go into the logic of "my word against his 
word".


Best regards,
Oleksiy (Alex-7@OSM)

On 9/19/19 23:34, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote:
    Are there programs that are spying on me, like they do in 
wikipedia – wikidata in real time, that is see
what i am doing , or is there a way of seeing  point edits by name, 
that is every time someone edits, adds

a certain  named point ?
   Every time i go out on the  bus (no car) a few miles from my on the 
ground area
and see things like new bus stops, etc. when i get back to my computer 
i add them to the map
if they were of course not there, and every time someone comes along 
and changes things

or adds things in that area based on tracing and not real time.
also i get messages from the same person with bus stops saying i have 
done it wrong
without telling where it is a rule, it seems this one person controls 
all bus routes in a
3,446square miles area, but does not add all the stops and “the bus 
will stops anywhere
along the route where it is safe to do so” and these are where i pick 
up the bus

and there not all on his downloaded list or live map.

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Re: [OSM-talk] stalking, or stepping on someone's toes (area) ?

2019-09-20 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
19 Sep 2019, 23:34 by talk@openstreetmap.org:

> also i get messages from the same person with bus stops saying i have done it 
> wrong
>  
> without telling where it is a rule
>
Is (s)he sending private messages or commenting in edit discussions in 
changesets?
In the first case - I would ask for more detail/explanation.
In the second case - can you link this changesets with such comments?
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Re: [OSM-talk] stalking, or stepping on someone's toes (area) ?

2019-09-19 Thread Clifford Snow
There are some tools like osmcha.mapbox.com that allows users to watch
edits in specific areas. For example, I watch for new editors in my state.
I also watch all edits in a wide geographical area around me.

I'm sorry that the person is not giving you better feedback on how to
improve. Feel free to post a changeset comment to help us understand the
issue better and to offer suggestions on how to edit the feature. That is
assuming that the other person knows what they are talking about.

Best,
Clifford

On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 2:34 PM 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk <
talk@openstreetmap.org> wrote:

> Are there programs that are spying on me, like they do in wikipedia –
> wikidata in real time, that is see
>
> what i am doing , or is there a way of seeing  point edits by name, that
> is every time someone edits, adds
>
> a certain  named point ?
>
>Every time i go out on the  bus (no car) a few miles from my on the
> ground area
>
> and see things like new bus stops, etc. when i get back to my computer i
> add them to the map
>
> if they were of course not there, and every time someone comes along and
> changes things
>
> or adds things in that area based on tracing and not real time.
>
> also i get messages from the same person with bus stops saying i have done
> it wrong
>
> without telling where it is a rule, it seems this one person controls all
> bus routes in a
>
> 3,446 square miles area, but does not add all the stops and “the bus will
> stops anywhere
>
> along the route where it is safe to do so” and these are where i pick up
> the bus
>
> and there not all on his downloaded list or live map.
>
>
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[OSM-talk] stalking, or stepping on someone's toes (area) ?

2019-09-19 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk

    Are there programs that are spying on me, like they do 
in wikipedia – wikidata in real time, that is see 
 
what i am doing , or is there a way of seeing  point edits by name, 
that is every time someone edits, adds 
 
a certain  named point ? 
 
   Every time i go out on the  bus (no car) a few miles from 
my on the ground area 
 
and see things like new bus stops, etc. when i get back to my computer i 
add them to the map 
 
if they were of course not there, and every time someone comes along and 
changes things
 
or adds things in that area based on tracing and not real time.
 
also i get messages from the same person with bus stops saying i have done 
it wrong
 
without telling where it is a rule, it seems this one person controls all 
bus routes in a 
 
3,446   square 
miles area, but does not add all the stops and “the bus will stops 
anywhere
 
along the route where it is safe to do so” and these 
are where i pick up the bus
 
and there not all on his downloaded list or live 
map.
 
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