Re: [talk-au] Fords, Causeways, Piers, Wharfs, etc

2009-05-25 Thread Delta Foxtrot
--- On Mon, 25/5/09, dar...@tpg.com.au wrote: > What I do have a problem with is a rock or concrete wall > that is built to control the flow of water as > in river mouths and enclosing harbours. Some call them > "Breakwalls", some call them "Training > Walls", some call them "Breakwaters", some

Re: [talk-au] Causeways

2009-05-25 Thread Ross Scanlon
> On Tue, 26 May 2009 07:31:01 +1000 > Liz wrote: > >> On Tue, 26 May 2009, Delta Foxtrot wrote: >> > My original question was in relation to concreate slab crossings >> > which technically aren't fords because they dry far more often than >> > wet, and they aren't raised at all so they're not br

Re: [talk-au] Fords, Causeways, Piers, Wharfs, etc

2009-05-25 Thread b . schulz . 10
Hi there, The maps produced by the NSW Department of Lands (now NSW Land and Property Information) calls them a "breakwater" in their map key. I've also seen the breakwater term used on warning sings and the like which are posted near said man-made rocky protrusions. So, unless a different gov

[talk-au] Fords, Causeways, Piers, Wharfs, etc

2009-05-25 Thread darylr
> > Really? We've always called 'em Fords here in SA, they called > causeways > elsewhere? And a causeway to me is exactly the definition I saw > posted > earlier from wikipedia, so the whole confusion is confusing to me :) > > > Something else I can't work out how to tag is a jetty, the thing

Re: [talk-au] Causeways

2009-05-25 Thread Darrin Smith
On Tue, 26 May 2009 07:31:01 +1000 Liz wrote: > On Tue, 26 May 2009, Delta Foxtrot wrote: > > My original question was in relation to concreate slab crossings > > which technically aren't fords because they dry far more often than > > wet, and they aren't raised at all so they're not bridges. > >

Re: [talk-au] Causeways

2009-05-25 Thread Liz
On Tue, 26 May 2009, Delta Foxtrot wrote: > My original question was in relation to concreate slab crossings which > technically aren't fords because they dry far more often than wet, and they > aren't raised at all so they're not bridges. > > I can't find an example of what I mean, I'll have to ta

Re: [talk-au] Causeways

2009-05-25 Thread Delta Foxtrot
--- On Mon, 25/5/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote: > They're not marked in though, because the river > hasn't been marked in yet either. Along that road they > are marked with an RTA road sign which reads > "FORD". Perhaps we could mark all the crossings > which are signposted as such as highway=

Re: [talk-au] Causeways

2009-05-25 Thread b . schulz . 10
I have seen proper always-wet fords in NSW, namely along the Gloucester Tops road: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.0583&lon=151.7438&zoom=13&layers=B000FTF They're not marked in though, because the river hasn't been marked in yet either. Along that road they are marked with an RTA road si

Re: [talk-au] NSW/QLD Border

2009-05-25 Thread Delta Foxtrot
--- On Mon, 25/5/09, Delta Foxtrot wrote: > A section of ABS boundary is over 4000 nodes, but I keep > getting an error about a maximum of 2000 nodes, and I can't > figure out how to split or otherwise the segment so it can > be turned into a river/border. JOSM can't deal with it, but for some r

Re: [talk-au] Causeways

2009-05-25 Thread Delta Foxtrot
--- On Mon, 25/5/09, Liz wrote: > Yup, in New South, when you have a concrete road way > built into the bottom of a creek bed, crossing the creek, > that's a causeway. Except it's a ford. Except the deff of a ford is that it's usually wet and the slabs in NSW creeks and gullies are usually dry,

Re: [talk-au] Causeways

2009-05-25 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Mon, 25 May 2009, Stephen Hope wrote: > Just be grateful you're not trying to teach English to some-one who > speaks Melanesian pidgin. There's no distinction there between a > bridge, a pier, a jetty, etc. If it's man-made and it's elevated, > it's a bris. Trying to explain why English uses

Re: [talk-au] Causeways

2009-05-25 Thread Stephen Hope
2009/5/25 Liz : > > Something else I can't work out how to tag is a jetty, the thing that juts > out into water and boats tie up to. But after 8 years of drought here, > perhaps I needn't worry too much. > > Just be grateful you're not trying to teach English to some-one who speaks Melanesian pidg

Re: [talk-au] Causeways

2009-05-25 Thread Liz
On Mon, 25 May 2009, Darrin Smith wrote: > Really? We've always called 'em Fords here in SA, they called causeways > elsewhere? And a causeway to me is exactly the definition I saw posted > earlier from wikipedia, so the whole confusion is confusing to me :) Yup, in New South, when you have a conc

Re: [talk-au] Yorke Peninsula and South Australia

2009-05-25 Thread Darrin Smith
On Mon, 25 May 2009 18:50:15 +1030 Graeme Wilson wrote: > If you need something checked anywhere, ie street names etc, as long > as it will only take a few minutes as I am passing through, then make > a list and I will see what I can do. On good thing to get since you mentioned the YP is the pat

Re: [talk-au] Causeways

2009-05-25 Thread Matt White
Mark Pulley wrote: > Quoting Delta Foxtrot : > > >> Wikipedia has 2 distinct entries, a ford is something close to the >> usual concrete slab I'm thinking/refering to, the US version of a >> causeway looks like a built up piece of land acting like a low >> bridge, although they do seem

Re: [talk-au] Causeways

2009-05-25 Thread Darrin Smith
On Mon, 25 May 2009 20:26:45 +1000 Liz wrote: > On Mon, 25 May 2009, Mark Pulley wrote: > > Wikipedia also has > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_water_crossing - this is what I > > have been thinking of as 'causeway'. > > > > Do we need a new setting highway=low_water_crossing ? > > > > for

Re: [talk-au] Causeways

2009-05-25 Thread Liz
On Mon, 25 May 2009, Mark Pulley wrote: > Wikipedia also has > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_water_crossing - this is what I have > been thinking of as 'causeway'. > > Do we need a new setting highway=low_water_crossing ? ford should do that OK. We have an interesting language problem in

Re: [talk-au] Causeways

2009-05-25 Thread Liz
On Mon, 25 May 2009, Delta Foxtrot wrote: > Wikipedia has 2 distinct entries, a ford is something close to the usual > concrete slab I'm thinking/refering to, the US version of a causeway looks > like a built up piece of land acting like a low bridge, although they do > seem to have a Western Austr

[talk-au] Yorke Peninsula and South Australia

2009-05-25 Thread Graeme Wilson
Hi All, I will be working in SA for several months, everywhere from Mt Gambier to Olympic Dam to Ceduna. I will be going through the Yorke Peninsula too and adding major roads. If you need something checked anywhere, ie street names etc, as long as it will only take a few minutes as I a