Re: [talk-au] Hiking tracks: foot=yes or foot=designated?

2010-02-23 Thread John Henderson
Steve Bennett wrote: > Absolutely we should. Routes like that appear on maps. For example, > there's a part of the Overland Track where John Chapman publishes an > alternative route around Lake St Clair. There's no track, and his map > uses a different kind of line to indicate "route" rather than

Re: [talk-au] Hiking tracks: foot=yes or foot=designated?

2010-02-23 Thread John Henderson
Steve Bennett wrote: > I think a little intuition can be a very dangerous thing. Remember, > the name "national walking route" is a UK term, reflecting a > particular way of administering trails by their government. > Essentially I think we can treat these four levels as just four levels > of sign

Re: [talk-au] Hiking tracks: foot=yes or foot=designated?

2010-02-23 Thread Steve Bennett
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:49 AM, John Smith wrote: > Speak for yourself, the Qld/NSW border along the coast is fairly > heavily populated, although this is the exception not the rule I > guess. Thank you for that insightful, helpful and utterly relevant contribution to this conversation, which w

Re: [talk-au] Hiking tracks: foot=yes or foot=designated?

2010-02-23 Thread John Smith
On 24 February 2010 09:33, Steve Bennett wrote: > The rule about crossing a state boundary...well, that will almost > never happen. Same with bike paths, our state boundaries are all in > the middle of nowhere. So that's just not useful. Speak for yourself, the Qld/NSW border along the coast is f

Re: [talk-au] admin boundaries on garmin

2010-02-23 Thread Greg Harper
I have found the admin boundaries (suburbs were giving me the most grief) are really misleading for navigation too, particularly on smaller screens as Liz mentioned. I prefer to grab the ones from here osmaustralia.org as I don't have time to build my own. So when he does fix it, it will be appre

Re: [talk-au] Hiking tracks: foot=yes or foot=designated?

2010-02-23 Thread Steve Bennett
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 8:46 PM, John Henderson wrote: > I forgot about the Australian Alps Walking Track, which is national, > spanning significant distances in both NSW and Vic. Yeah, it goes from Walhalla to Canberra, about 650km. By comparison, one version of the Camino de Santiago is 800km.

Re: [talk-au] Hiking tracks: foot=yes or foot=designated?

2010-02-23 Thread Steve Bennett
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 8:29 PM, John Henderson wrote: > I agree that we don't have international hiking routes (IWN) in Australia. > > I thought it intuitive that a national route (NWN) would cross a state > border and be a significantly long walk.  Basically, that's the Bicentennial > National T

Re: [talk-au] admin boundaries on garmin

2010-02-23 Thread Steve Bennett
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 8:57 AM, wrote: > I used my garmin oregon 550 in the car on the way to Canberra yesterday. > Messed up a bit because i hadn't put a routable map on it, so had Navit on > the netbook on the passengers seat to assist me. > However I noted that the OSM map on the Garmin clear

Re: [talk-au] admin boundaries on garmin

2010-02-23 Thread John Henderson
ed...@billiau.net wrote: > I used my garmin oregon 550 in the car on the way to Canberra yesterday. > Messed up a bit because i hadn't put a routable map on it, so had Navit on > the netbook on the passengers seat to assist me. > However I noted that the OSM map on the Garmin clearly shows the admi

Re: [talk-au] admin boundaries on garmin

2010-02-23 Thread Franc Carter
I don't think we should be changing the boundaries, otherwise we end running around trying to satisfy a whole bunch of different apps cheers On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 8:57 AM, wrote: > I used my garmin oregon 550 in the car on the way to Canberra yesterday. > Messed up a bit because i hadn't put

[talk-au] admin boundaries on garmin

2010-02-23 Thread edodd
I used my garmin oregon 550 in the car on the way to Canberra yesterday. Messed up a bit because i hadn't put a routable map on it, so had Navit on the netbook on the passengers seat to assist me. However I noted that the OSM map on the Garmin clearly shows the admin boundaries with names - I was s

Re: [talk-au] Opening hours

2010-02-23 Thread John Smith
On 24 February 2010 07:42, Roy Wallace wrote: > That's a little strange. I would have thought instead > opening_hours=Jul We[-1] 09:00-17:00. But as long as it's described > clearly on the wiki, it's fine. It's common to PHP at least, as someone said on the tagging list, it's not really human rea

Re: [talk-au] Opening hours

2010-02-23 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 3:59 PM, John Smith wrote: > > Third sunday of the month, from 9 until 12 can be tagged as: > opening_hours=Su[3] 09:00-12:00 > > Sunday markets on the 1st, 3rd and 5th Sundays of the month: > opening_hours=Su[1,3,5] 06:00-12:00 These are good. > Last Wednesday in July: o

[talk-au] GA national park and state forest datasource - been discussed before?

2010-02-23 Thread Chris Barham
I've been poking around for Qld National parks and State Forests info to allow me to bring the data in from DCDB, and came across this CC licenced dataset at GA which I hadn't seen referenced on the wiki or the mailing list before: Geoscience Australia - Land Tenure 2003 CC licenced dataset of La

Re: [talk-au] local chapter stuff

2010-02-23 Thread John Smith
On 24 February 2010 07:14, Henk Hoff wrote: > - Foundation may (!) check on the books etc in order to check whether the LC > is not doing anything that could hurt the name and fame of OSM or the > Foundation. Assuming that is legal to do so, I'm yet to see anything close to formal legal advice in

Re: [talk-au] local chapter stuff

2010-02-23 Thread Henk Hoff
Guys, It may be good to give also an update on the whole chapters thingy on this mailing list. First: the draft agreement you've been referring to is of the table. We had a good discussion within the OSMF board about the organizational structure of the Foundation. We concluded that this agreement

Re: [talk-au] Layers for landuse (Was: tennis court land)

2010-02-23 Thread David Murn
On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 17:16 +1100, Luke Woolley wrote: > Mainly because I normally give landuses a -3 layer and for things that > sit just above or directly on the ground I give the next layer up. > Probably doesn't need it, but it will do no harm being there. Until someone decides to map undergro

[talk-au] License to OSM

2010-02-23 Thread John Smith
There has been a number of people reporting that they have been stoped and questioned and/or had a gun pointed at them due to their activities associated with OSM. Same thing happens to Geocachers and a solution they came up with was to produce license like documents to help explain their presence.

Re: [talk-au] Hiking tracks: foot=yes or foot=designated?

2010-02-23 Thread John Smith
On 23 February 2010 20:09, John Henderson wrote: > That's very unlike the OSM situation, where the resolution allows an > exactly identical path to be taken every time. If there is a lot of tree cover GPS will experince the same issue as well. > If they're not confident, or travelling in a small

Re: [talk-au] Hiking tracks: foot=yes or foot=designated?

2010-02-23 Thread John Henderson
John Smith wrote: > On 23 February 2010 19:46, John Henderson wrote: >> But part of that track goes through wilderness areas, where track >> markers aren't permitted. Should we be even mapping those sections, >> thereby helping create an erosion/"localised overuse" threat? > > Are they marked on

Re: [talk-au] Hiking tracks: foot=yes or foot=designated?

2010-02-23 Thread John Smith
On 23 February 2010 19:46, John Henderson wrote: > But part of that track goes through wilderness areas, where track > markers aren't permitted. Should we be even mapping those sections, > thereby helping create an erosion/"localised overuse" threat? Are they marked on official maps, or at least

Re: [talk-au] Hiking tracks: foot=yes or foot=designated?

2010-02-23 Thread John Henderson
Steve Bennett wrote: > Not too important yet, but it would certainly be good to get all > walking tracks using route relations, and to be roughly consistent > about what is IWN/NWN/RWN/LWN. Some further thoughts on this: I forgot about the Australian Alps Walking Track, which is national, spann

Re: [talk-au] Duplicate node finder

2010-02-23 Thread Jeff Price
Great to see the hero and villian list. I can see the 'duplicate way' finder being the logical extension given the number of duplicate nodes I found to be the result of complete way/building/landuse duplication. Jeff. Re: [talk-au] Duplicate node finder Tuesday, 23 February 2010 4:11:06 PM Fr

Re: [talk-au] Hiking tracks: foot=yes or foot=designated?

2010-02-23 Thread John Henderson
Steve Bennett wrote: > Not too important yet, but it would certainly be good to get all > walking tracks using route relations, and to be roughly consistent > about what is IWN/NWN/RWN/LWN. I agree that we don't have international hiking routes (IWN) in Australia. I thought it intuitive that a n

Re: [talk-au] Opening hours

2010-02-23 Thread John Smith
On 23 February 2010 18:47, John Henderson wrote: >> Last Wednesday in July: opening_hours=Aug We[-1] 09:00-17:00 > > I don't know Java syntax, but the above looks like it's lifted straight > from Python. It was suggested by someone based on ical/vcal format. _

Re: [talk-au] Opening hours

2010-02-23 Thread John Henderson
John Smith wrote: > For the benefit of those not on the tagging list there has been a > solution to my problem of how to tag opening hours for things like > "third sunday of the month" and even how to tag school zones. > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key%3Aopening_hours&diff=42