Re: [talk-au] CC-BY-A data released for Victoria

2010-03-02 Thread Roy Wallace
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Nick Hocking wrote: > > Another possibility is that we just say - OSM is just a repository for this > data and we don't modify it in any way, or add to it, > and then just do a complete bulk import every time a new version becomes > available. Another possibility

Re: [talk-au] Overland Track added

2010-03-02 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Lachlan Rogers wrote: > Beat me to it! > > I hiked the Overland Track in January, and recorded a trace of most of > it - but the busy getting-back-into-life-after-the-holidays has > prevented me from adding it to OSM. > > I'll be able to provide confirmation of your

Re: [talk-au] Overland Track added

2010-03-02 Thread John Henderson
Sam Couter wrote: > My old man's a surveyor so I've played chainman plenty of times too. > These days it's less about the chain and more about carrying the prism > to the benchmark and to each spot. You don't expect the surveyor to do > the walking, do you? It was a surveyor I met in the field re

Re: [talk-au] Overland Track added

2010-03-02 Thread Sam Couter
John Henderson wrote: > Yes, the figure from a proper survey should have an accuracy of a few > centimetres. One of my many jobs (back in the 70s) was a chainman > (surveyor's assistant). With modern electronic gear, I believe there's > no such job any more. My old man's a surveyor so I've p

Re: [talk-au] answers to difficult questions

2010-03-02 Thread Sam Couter
David Murn wrote: > Ive been using a couple of different techniques for doing power towers, > but one that Im looking at for more remote towers is simple survey > triangulation as you suggest. Youve got a GPS, all you need is a > compass, pen/paper and a little bit of high-school maths. You'll n

Re: [talk-au] answers to difficult questions

2010-03-02 Thread Sam Couter
John Smith wrote: > options as well, the only major nuclear accident was due to Russian > [management] Fixed. Chernobyl was a pretty standard reactor design for its time. It exploded because all of the safety systems were disabled for various tests. There was nothing wrong with the engineering,

Re: [talk-au] CC-BY-A data released for Victoria

2010-03-02 Thread Nick Hocking
Another problem with imported datasets is how this information is updated. Is the import a one shot thing or will there be updates provided by the data owners? E,G ABS will have new (and more up to date) data available for the suburb boundaries. It would be sad not to be able to use this data. I

Re: [talk-au] CC-BY-A data released for Victoria

2010-03-02 Thread Sam Vekemans
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 2:06 PM, John Smith wrote: > On 3 March 2010 07:56, Roy Wallace wrote: >> I disagree! Be careful not to be condescending to other mappers, and > > I'm not being condescending, but realistic, accidents happen and > people do bad things on purpose. > >> please don't be "prote

Re: [talk-au] CC-BY-A data released for Victoria

2010-03-02 Thread John Smith
On 3 March 2010 07:56, Roy Wallace wrote: > I disagree! Be careful not to be condescending to other mappers, and I'm not being condescending, but realistic, accidents happen and people do bad things on purpose. > please don't be "protective" of the data that you could otherwise make > available.

Re: [talk-au] CC-BY-A data released for Victoria

2010-03-02 Thread Roy Wallace
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 4:47 AM, John Smith wrote: > > I think making OSM > files available to anyone and everyone is a bad idea simply because it > only takes a couple of overly zealous mappers or people with malice > and we really will have a problem on our hands. I disagree! Be careful not to b

Re: [talk-au] CC-BY-A data released for Victoria

2010-03-02 Thread John Smith
I think things are being blown out of proportion about duplicates, points of interest is one thing that OSM can excel at, but the point itself is only part of the data, I think the meta information is more important and a lot of this information simply isn't being collected at present by most mappe