Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-24 Thread Liz
On Sun, 25 Apr 2010, Richard Colless wrote: > John Smith wrote: > On 25 April 2010 00:33, Ross Scanlon wrote: > > This is definitely not a mini_roundabout even if we had such in Australia > which has previously been agreed we don't have them. > > I wasn't in on that discussion. If we don't ha

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-24 Thread John Smith
On 25 April 2010 16:37, Richard Colless wrote: > I wasn't in on that discussion. If we don't have them in Australia, then > what are they? I always thought they were those piddling little things where > councils were too stingy to do anything more than paint a circle on the > road. Every so often

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-24 Thread Richard Colless
John Smith wrote: On 25 April 2010 00:33, Ross Scanlon wrote: This is definitely not a mini_roundabout even if we had such in Australia which has previously been agreed we don't have them. I wasn't in on that discussion. If we don't have them in Australia, then what are

Re: [talk-au] Mobile phone towers

2010-04-24 Thread John Henderson
On 25/04/10 12:59, John Smith wrote: > On 25 April 2010 12:28, Ross Scanlon wrote: >> This is the way it should work when proposals are developed to in use. >> >> I changed the one from Commnications Tower to man_made=tower name=Optus, >> Telstra, etc > > Did you add tower:type=communication? > >

Re: [talk-au] Mobile phone towers

2010-04-24 Thread John Smith
On 25 April 2010 12:28, Ross Scanlon wrote: > This is the way it should work when proposals are developed to in use. > > I changed the one from Commnications Tower to man_made=tower name=Optus, > Telstra, etc Did you add tower:type=communication? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%

Re: [talk-au] Mobile phone towers

2010-04-24 Thread Ross Scanlon
On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 11:55:46 +1000 John Henderson wrote: > On 25/04/10 12:13, Ross Scanlon wrote: > > > The other items I've been noticing in tagwatch are: > > > > Go CArt Track=monument > > Communications Tower=Optus, Telstra, etc > > > > > > These are just a couple of examples but there are/we

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-24 Thread Liz
On Sun, 25 Apr 2010, Ross Scanlon wrote: > On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 11:10:31 +1000 > > John Smith wrote: > > To me a "proper" roundabout has 3 or more entrances/exits, otherwise > > it's just a traffic calming device, at the end of a road it's a > > turning circle... > > Exactly. > > The other items

[talk-au] Mobile phone towers

2010-04-24 Thread John Henderson
On 25/04/10 12:13, Ross Scanlon wrote: > The other items I've been noticing in tagwatch are: > > Go CArt Track=monument > Communications Tower=Optus, Telstra, etc > > > These are just a couple of examples but there are/were a number of others, > I've fixed some of them. > > They are never going t

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-24 Thread Ross Scanlon
On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 11:10:31 +1000 John Smith wrote: > To me a "proper" roundabout has 3 or more entrances/exits, otherwise > it's just a traffic calming device, at the end of a road it's a > turning circle... Exactly. The other items I've been noticing in tagwatch are: Go CArt Track=monument

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-24 Thread Liz
On Sun, 25 Apr 2010, John Smith wrote: > > But why mark it incorrectly in the first place? > > a) People are lazy > b) Person mapping forgot it was a round about and not a normal > intersection when they map from GPS traces > c) I'm sure I thought up a third reason at some point. > c) it's a pres

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-24 Thread John Smith
On 25 April 2010 11:06, John Henderson wrote: > Alas, evidence says that's increasingly the case. Moreover, there's a > lot of outsourcing to private contractors going on where the contractors > either aren't told exactly what to do and guess, or just take the > easiest way out anyway. > > Unless

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-24 Thread John Henderson
On 25/04/10 10:25, John Smith wrote: > On 25 April 2010 07:31, John Henderson wrote: >> I know of one turning circle (with island) which is a true roundabout >> according to the roadside signage on the entry: > > Are councils just being stingy when that happens because they bulk > order one set of

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-24 Thread John Smith
On 25 April 2010 07:31, John Henderson wrote: > I know of one turning circle (with island) which is a true roundabout > according to the roadside signage on the entry: Are councils just being stingy when that happens because they bulk order one set of signs and then miss apply them?

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-24 Thread John Smith
On 25 April 2010 01:15, Ross Scanlon wrote: > But why mark it incorrectly in the first place? a) People are lazy b) Person mapping forgot it was a round about and not a normal intersection when they map from GPS traces c) I'm sure I thought up a third reason at some point. > There are guidelines

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-24 Thread John Henderson
On 25/04/10 00:33, Ross Scanlon wrote: > Hi All, > > I know I'm probably preaching to the converted but... > > I've been having a look at tagwatch and have noticed a massive increase in > the number of mini roundabouts, in the past couple of months. A useful and timely reminder Ross. > Mind you

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-24 Thread Ross Scanlon
> > I've also notice mini_roundabouts being used for this: > > While this is obviously not ideal, it is imho better than not marking > a roundabout at all, at least if they are marked incorrectly you can > see them at a glance and fix them up. > But why mark it incorrectly in the first place? Th

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-24 Thread Ross Scanlon
On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 22:19:50 +0800 "Andrew Gregory" wrote: > On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 22:33:25 +0800, Ross Scanlon > wrote: > > > I know I'm probably preaching to the converted but... > > :) > > > Also I've found mini_roundabouts for this: > > > > http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-27.67619,153.16911&z

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-24 Thread John Smith
On 25 April 2010 00:33, Ross Scanlon wrote: > This is definitely not a mini_roundabout even if we had such in Australia > which has previously been agreed we don't have them. I thought we agreed to disagree *ducks* > I've also notice mini_roundabouts being used for this: While this is obviousl

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-24 Thread Andrew Gregory
On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 22:33:25 +0800, Ross Scanlon wrote: > I know I'm probably preaching to the converted but... :) > Also I've found mini_roundabouts for this: > > http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-27.67619,153.16911&z=20&t=k > > I'd suggest this should be traffic_calming=island Yes, I've seen lot

[talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-24 Thread Ross Scanlon
Hi All, I know I'm probably preaching to the converted but... I've been having a look at tagwatch and have noticed a massive increase in the number of mini roundabouts, in the past couple of months. Mind you I've replaced about 800 of them over the last week or too. Any way one example is thi