Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-26 Thread John Kitchener
For me, the single most relevant issue is how does a 'mini roundabout' display with Garmin turn by voice routing? >From memory (I haven't played with it recently), a 'mini roundabout' works in Garmin as a standard cross street. This is quite confusing when presented with a real round-about.

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-26 Thread John Henderson
On 27/04/10 07:47, John Kitchener wrote: > For me, the single most relevant issue is how does a ‘mini roundabout’ > display with Garmin turn by voice routing? > > From memory (I haven’t played with it recently), a ‘mini roundabout’ > works in Garmin as a standard cross street. This is quite confusi

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-26 Thread Richard Colless
John Kitchener wrote: For me, the single most relevant issue is how does a ‘mini roundabout’ display with Garmin turn by voice routing?   From memory (I haven’t played with it recently), a ‘mini roundabout’ works in Garmin as a standard cross street. This is quite confusin

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-26 Thread Jim Croft
because it is there? and it you drive straight ahead and through rather than around it things could get ugly? jim On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Richard Colless wrote: > If a mini-roundabout conveys no useful information, why waste time putting > it on the map? -- _ Jim Crof

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-26 Thread Ross Scanlon
So draw it out in full, that way the routing and map renderers can do whatever they like with the information. Cheers Ross On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 09:25:33 +1000 Jim Croft wrote: > because it is there? > > and it you drive straight ahead and through rather than around it > things could get ugly?

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-26 Thread John Smith
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that the crux of this argument really comes down to people complaining because Garmin's don't do something meaningful with the information, and I'm guessing those that don't care either way or think mini roundabouts are valid don't have a Garmin. ___

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-26 Thread Liz
On Tue, 27 Apr 2010, John Smith wrote: > Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that the crux of this > argument really comes down to people complaining because Garmin's > don't do something meaningful with the information, and I'm guessing > those that don't care either way or think mini roun

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-26 Thread John Smith
On 27 April 2010 10:53, Liz wrote: > They are very rare, and perhaps we should draw them out as roundabouts anyway. I think most people agree most mini-roundabouts are incorrectly tagged, as for the ones that may be deemed mini, that's where the secondary arguments of both sides come in. Drawing

[talk-au] White Cross painted on road - signifies what?

2010-04-26 Thread Chris Barham
Hi, Whilst out getting GPS traces north of Brisbane I've noticed quite a few roads, usually at the end of a rural road, there will be a cross in white paint on the centre of road, sometimes with a bolt in the centre of the cross. Each arm of the cross is about a metre long. Anyone know what these

Re: [talk-au] White Cross painted on road - signifies what?

2010-04-26 Thread Chris Barham
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 10:58, Chris Barham wrote: > Hi, > Whilst out getting GPS traces north of Brisbane I've noticed quite a few > roads, usually at the end of a rural road, there will be a cross in white > paint on the centre of road, sometimes with a bolt in the centre of the > cross. Each

Re: [talk-au] White Cross painted on road - signifies what?

2010-04-26 Thread Jim Croft
"Airdrop emergency beer supply here" jim On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Chris Barham wrote: > On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 10:58, Chris Barham wrote: >> >> Hi, >> Whilst out getting GPS traces north of Brisbane I've noticed quite a few >> roads, usually at the end of a rural road, there will be a

Re: [talk-au] White Cross painted on road - signifies what?

2010-04-26 Thread Craig Feuerherdt
These crosses are most typically for rectifying aerial photography. They are surveyed locations put in an easy to see location. Hi, > Whilst out getting GPS traces north of Brisbane I've noticed quite a few > roads, usually at the end of a rural road, there will be a cross in white > paint on the

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-26 Thread Stephen Hope
On 27 April 2010 10:53, Liz wrote: > Some whisper that they have seen a painted roundabout on the road, but whether > this is a roundabout is not for us to know - according to the Road Rulez it > ain't a roundabout. and > They are very rare, and perhaps we should draw them out as roundabouts any

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-26 Thread Ben Kelley
Hi. Although I know this issue has probably been done to death, I wonder if it is true that there is any difference from a routing point of view between a roundabout and a mini roundabout. Consider this one: http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-33.891579,151.134924&z=21&t=k&nmd=20100316 This is currentl

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-26 Thread Liz
On Tue, 27 Apr 2010, Ben Kelley wrote: > This is currently a real roundabout in OSM, but local knowledge tells me > that it is impossible to go around more than about 90 degrees 270 degrees > at this > intersection. That is, from any approach, you can turn left or right. > > For most vehicles, th

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-26 Thread Liz
On Tue, 27 Apr 2010, Ben Kelley wrote: > Hi. > > Although I know this issue has probably been done to death, I wonder if it > is true that there is any difference from a routing point of view between a > roundabout and a mini roundabout. > > Is that a significant difference though? You could eas

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-26 Thread Liz
> http://www.billiau.net/osm/roundabouts.pdf is what I researched last time in the last paragraphs no, my Garmin does not respect a roundabout-on-a-node, I was mistaken ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/

[talk-au] Nearmap CEO in ABC radio interview

2010-04-26 Thread John Smith
>From Nearmap's forum http://forum.nearmap.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=334 "Stuart, our founder and CEO, was recently interviewed by Desley Blanch for ABC's Innovations radio show. An MP3 of the show is here: http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/ra/podcast/innovations/innovations_20100426.mp3 ...and a t

[talk-au] Wikifiddling

2010-04-26 Thread Liz
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tips_especially_for_Aussies has been marked by (a nonAussie) This page has been suggested for clean-up. Please Discuss. that was dated 02/10/09 It was my first rearrangement of the wiki there is a claim on the 'discuss' link that "many of them are not entirely c