[talk-au] Charleville, Qld survey suggestions sought

2011-09-06 Thread Christopher Barham
Hi, I'm in Charleville, Qld for a couple of days with an iPhone, a garmin oregon GPS and, from tomorrow, a vehicle. The place is pretty much unsurveyed, but the DCDB has been used to add streets so the road geometry is ok. Will do what I can (street names etc) , but I wondered if there is anythi

Re: [talk-au] Princes Highway (Relation 538443)

2011-09-06 Thread John Smith
On 7 September 2011 12:27, Ian Sergeant wrote: >> Princes Highway is part of route 1. > > This isn't helpful. National Route 1 and the Princes Hwy diverge at many > points. National Route 1 follows the Southern Freeway south from Sydney for > a start. So what, how does that make routes less usef

Re: [talk-au] Princes Highway (Relation 538443)

2011-09-06 Thread Richard Weait
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:14 AM, Ian Sergeant wrote: [regarding a relation with gaps] > I have surveyed, it is removed from the relation, and consequently the > relation has a gap. > > My understanding is for this relation type - a route - gaps are not > allowed.  After all, this is the whole poin

Re: [talk-au] Princes Highway (Relation 538443)

2011-09-06 Thread Ian Sergeant
On 7 September 2011 11:55, Steve Bennett wrote: > > > What I'm talking about here is a "route" relation. I'm arguing that we > > don't need a named route relation called the Princes Highway. > > But your argument consists of "I can't decide which roads should make > up the relation, so let's del

[talk-au] Melbourne "smart city" comprehensive geodata coming soon

2011-09-06 Thread Alex (Maxious) Sadleir
There have been some interesting tweets today: Now on at #smartgov Colin Fairweather on how Melbourne became a smart city Colin says the City of Melbourne will be making public a large amount of maps data this month - "google on steroids" #smartgov Data will include property & business census, occ

Re: [talk-au] Princes Highway (Relation 538443)

2011-09-06 Thread Steve Bennett
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Ian Sergeant wrote: > The RTA in NSW has an internal route that they call the Princes Highway - > which is essentially the main road heading south along the coast (give or > take).  They nominate this route because it is the one they maintain as a > state govt road

Re: [talk-au] Princes Highway (Relation 538443)

2011-09-06 Thread Ian Sergeant
On 6 September 2011 14:10, Liz wrote: > according to my personal knowledge, it has run between Adelaide and > Sydney via Melbourne for decades. > > Hi Liz, This is fine and good, and common knowledge. However, when you start looking at the road at the micro-level on the ground, it ain't that

Re: [talk-au] Princes Highway (Relation 538443)

2011-09-06 Thread John Smith
On 6 September 2011 07:13, Ben Kelley wrote: > In general I think it is common that a highway has a different name when it > goes through a town. Here the route continues, and will often be signposted > with the route number. > > I'm not sure if that is the case for every road in this relation tho

Re: [talk-au] Princes Highway (Relation 538443)

2011-09-06 Thread John Smith
On 6 September 2011 12:20, Steve Bennett wrote: > According to Wikipedia, it should extend all the way from Adelaide to Sydney: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princes_Highway If memory serves correctly, it changes name through Melbourne. ___ Talk-au ma

Re: [talk-au] Princes Highway (Relation 538443)

2011-09-06 Thread John Smith
On 6 September 2011 12:50, Ian Sergeant wrote: > This document tells which roads are RTA funded, and which are local roads, > and does have a Princes Hwy route for the purposes of funding. However, I > really believe we should stick to mapping what is on the ground, else we are > going to run int

Re: [talk-au] Contribution review??

2011-09-06 Thread John Smith
On 6 September 2011 13:26, Ian Sergeant wrote: > Nearmap is no longer an acceptable source for OSM, since they do not allow > traces from their imagery to be re-licensed. I notice at least one of your > edits sourced nearmap, and that isn't allowed any more. If you were using > Potlatch, perhaps

Re: [talk-au] Princes Highway (Relation 538443)

2011-09-06 Thread Liz
On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 12:20:15 +1000 Steve Bennett wrote: > According to Wikipedia, it should extend all the way from Adelaide to > Sydney: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princes_Highway according to my personal knowledge, it has run between Adelaide and Sydney via Melbourne for decades. But the "re

Re: [talk-au] Princes Highway (Relation 538443)

2011-09-06 Thread 80n
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Ian Sergeant wrote: > On 6 September 2011 19:49, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > >> That reminds me.. I've just updated the name of the Princess Highway >> through Engadine based on the signed name via ground survey. I've made >> the change in fosm, >> http://api.fosm.o

Re: [talk-au] Princes Highway (Relation 538443)

2011-09-06 Thread Ian Sergeant
On 6 September 2011 19:49, Andrew Harvey wrote: > That reminds me.. I've just updated the name of the Princess Highway > through Engadine based on the signed name via ground survey. I've made > the change in fosm, > http://api.fosm.org/api/0.6/changeset/102770/download feel free to > mirror

Re: [talk-au] Princes Highway (Relation 538443)

2011-09-06 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 7:13 AM, Ben Kelley wrote: > In general I think it is common that a highway has a different name when it > goes through a town. Here the route continues, and will often be signposted > with the route number. > > I'm not sure if that is the case for every road in this relatio

Re: [talk-au] Missing streets in Sydney

2011-09-06 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Ian Sergeant wrote: > As you say, time isn't the only consideration.  I wouldn't want to be > navigating anywhere important based on a map merely consisting of vectorised > aerial imagery.  IMO OSMers are the ones who should be having the adventures > down the road