Re: [talk-au] Residential Roads

2011-12-14 Thread John Henderson
On 10/12/11 21:11, Sam Couter wrote: Many urban residential roads have speed limits of 60 or maybe 70km/h. I think rural roads with moderately dense residential acre blocks and 80km/h speed limits are still residential, unless they're also the main route to a neighbouring town, in which case

Re: [talk-au] Residential Roads

2011-12-14 Thread John Henderson
On 11/12/11 08:35, Sam Couter wrote: In the ACT 50km/h is the default if there are no signs. I know that's what the road signs say as you enter the ACT. It's also repeated on official ACT government web sites. But it's an over-simplification. The ACT version of the Australian Road Rules

[talk-au] Re-entering data to avoid licensing failure

2011-12-14 Thread John Henderson
As time and opportunity arises, I've started re-entering rural roads where it's clear that the original is scheduled for deletion. I'm deleting the old way completely, and re-entering it from GPS data I'm gathering. JOSM now has a License Check plugin to identify potential deletions, bringing

Re: [talk-au] Re-entering data to avoid licensing failure

2011-12-14 Thread Ross Scanlon
That's fine so long as you are not transferring any tags from the original way. See Frederik's comments to NE2 re this, on the osm-talk list. Mind you, you've got a lot to do in AU. Cheers Ross On 14/12/11 13:56, John Henderson wrote: As time and opportunity arises, I've started

[talk-au] another badly mapped junction

2011-12-14 Thread Frank
around -37.932622, 145.1560615 can somebody familiar with the area make this into a sensible junction? Frank ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Re-entering data to avoid licensing failure

2011-12-14 Thread John Henderson
On 15/12/11 02:15, Ross Scanlon wrote: That's fine so long as you are not transferring any tags from the original way. Yes, and that's why I'm trying not to reuse any original nodes. I imagine a lot of corners and other detail is going to disappear from some ways which remain (as I interpret

Re: [talk-au] Re-entering data to avoid licensing failure

2011-12-14 Thread Nick Hocking
Hi John, For towns that I have completely suryeyed, I will be remapping roads, as necessary to ensure that my survey work is not lost to the project. These roads will be completely replaced by my original data, maybe with some help from Bing imagery where it will help improve the accuracy of my

Re: [talk-au] Re-entering data to avoid licensing failure

2011-12-14 Thread Ben Kelley
Hi. I think it's clear we need an automated way to remove non-new-ct-accepting edits from ways where v1 was by an acceptor. Even assuming the trace data is in OSM there is still an immense amount of work needed to cleanse these ways. - Ben Kelley.

Re: [talk-au] Re-entering data to avoid licensing failure

2011-12-14 Thread Ross Scanlon
Problem with this is that you are breaching copyright. This is the same as what the user did with the data in Sydney and it was removed by the data working group. It's also what Frederik was discussing on the talk list in regards to NE2. You are not resolving the issue of the original data

Re: [talk-au] Re-entering data to avoid licensing failure

2011-12-14 Thread Ian Sergeant
No I'm not. I think you may be misunderstanding what I am doing. If the v1 object author has agreed to the CTs, but the v2 author has not, I simply delete the object, load the v1 object directly, make my changes, link the object and attribute the v1 author using the attribution tag. No

Re: [talk-au] Re-entering data to avoid licensing failure

2011-12-14 Thread Mark Pulley
Only if v1 is from a non-acceptor. I assumed from Ian's post that v1 is from an acceptor. (Or have I read that wrong?) Quoting Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com: Problem with this is that you are breaching copyright. Cheers Ross On 15/12/11 12:34, Ian Sergeant wrote: For a couple of objects,