Re: [talk-au] What do you prefer for Barmah-Millewa: swamp or wood?

2020-05-12 Thread cleary
You are right to point out that OSM offers a different choice of options compared with the NSW LPI BaseMap. Some time ago, when I couldn't find a legend on the BaseMap, I contacted NSW Spatial Services and I was directed to https://portal.spatial.nsw.gov.au/portal/apps/sites/#/home/pages/map-vi

Re: [talk-au] What do you prefer for Barmah-Millewa: swamp or wood?

2020-05-12 Thread Little Maps
Thanks Michael. Sorry, my last email overlapped with yours. I think a major problem is that the way the LPI Basemap, and folks in Australia generally, use the terms forest, swamp and wetland differs slightly from the way they are described in the OSM wiki pages. For example, the OSM guidelines r

[talk-au] Barmah thanks

2020-05-12 Thread Little Maps
Thanks everyone, it’s been useful to hear the wide range of thoughts. I guess I was uncertain to what degree the Aus OSM group followed the strict definitions of the OSM categories or adapted them to suit the way the terms are used locally. The way the OSM wiki page describes a swamp is very di

Re: [talk-au] What do you prefer for Barmah-Millewa: swamp or wood?

2020-05-12 Thread cleary
One further consideration is that NSW LPI BaseMap shows most of the NSW side of this area as wetland, subject to periodic inundation, while only small areas are shown as swamp. At the moment, OSM shows most of it as swamp while the named swamps are shown as wetland - exactly the opposite of t

Re: [talk-au] What do you prefer for Barmah-Millewa: swamp or wood?

2020-05-12 Thread Bren Barnes
Hey folks, if you're mapping south of the Murray, then perhaps the Vicmap products may be helpful. Vicmap Vegetation - Tree Density dataset could be useful in that DELWP have classified into dense, medium, and sparse tree density polygons and they continue to update the product regularly. More det

Re: [talk-au] What do you prefer for Barmah-Millewa: swamp or wood?

2020-05-12 Thread Michael Collinson
Hi Ian, Summary: For me wood is physical tree-cover and wetland is the condition of the ground and they are complimentary rather than exclusive. In Sweden, I map both natural=wood and natural=wetland as separate polygons, with a common border or overlap as appropriate. There is is very easy

Re: [talk-au] What do you prefer for Barmah-Millewa: swamp or wood?

2020-05-12 Thread cleary
I have visited Millewa in NSW and I've seen a little of Barmah but not much. I have a 4WD vehicle but I would not have left the road in either place as I would have become seriously bogged. It was quite wet in both places when I visited (some years apart, not at the same time). I think they are

[talk-au] What do you prefer for Barmah-Millewa: swamp or wood?

2020-05-12 Thread Little Maps
Hello everyone, I don’t know if there is any right / wrong answer to this question, hence I’m keen to know your preferences... I’m mapping wetlands and vegetation along the Murray River upstream of Yarrawonga, and am now mapping in Millewa forest. Millewa (in NSW) and Barmah forest (in Vic) sup