Fair enough. That’s a very different situation from what I’m usually mapping.
From: Graeme Fitzpatrick
Sent: Saturday, 25 September 2021 10:54
To: osm.talk...@thorsten.engler.id.au
Cc: OpenStreetMap
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Shared driveways
I don't disagree with any of your comments
y the address of the driveway in
> that case.
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> *From:* Kim Oldfield via Talk-au
> *Sent:* Friday, 24 September 2021 21:33
> *To:* talk-au@openstreetmap.org
> *Subject:* Re: [talk-au] Shared driveways
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> The wiki suggests you should use the addr tags instead:
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consumers should be able
to clearly identify the address of the driveway in that case.
From: Kim Oldfield via Talk-au
Sent: Friday, 24 September 2021 21:33
To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Shared driveways
The wiki suggests you should use the addr tags instead:
addr:street
The wiki suggests you should use the addr tags instead:
addr:street=Jardine Road
addr:housenumber=32
addr:unit=a/b/c or leave off for common driveway
I have tried this in the past, but validation tools complained.
I'm not sure if it is acceptable to set an address on a driveway.
On 24/9/21
Under what I'm suggesting, "32" would become service=driveway,
driveway=pipestem.
So it's completely compatible with existing tagging - but provides a
little extra information.
cheers
Tom
Canyoning? try http://ozultimate.com/canyoning
Bushwalking? try http://bushwalkingnsw.com
On
Hey Graeme,
While I understand your reasoning about naming the driveways, but I
don't believe it is a good idea.
It isn't really the name of the roadway. By analogy, a sign saying
"Entrance" at a hotel wouldn't make name of the driveway "Entrance". A
numbered letter box next to a driveway
On Fri, 24 Sept 2021 at 09:40, wrote:
> Hi
> I see that you have named the driveways. How does this sit with
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Names#Name_is_the_name_only
I don't "think" it goes against the grain of anything listed there?
No, driveways aren't (usually) signposted, but
Hi
I see that you have named the driveways. How does this sit with
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Names#Name_is_the_name_only
?
Tony
On Thu, 23 Sept 2021 at 20:17, Tom Brennan wrote:
Graeme - are you saying that you are tagging them all the same? Just as
separate ways?
Yep.
On Thu, 23 Sept 2021 at 20:17, Tom Brennan wrote:
> Graeme - are you saying that you are tagging them all the same? Just as
> separate ways?
>
Yep.
Here's one that I did recently:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/-28.07919/153.23456, which was
apparently a single property that was
I had never heard of "pipestem", but the actual key name isn't really
relevant - any more than say "sidewalk" in Australia.
The wiki definition for "pipestem" is "shared driveway", which is what
we're looking to help distinguish from single driveway (service=driveway).
Yes, agree that legally public roads should be classified as
highway=residential/unclassified or service=alley as appropriate.
Pipestem (not pipestream :) ) is purely for shared (probably private)
driveways.
cheers
Tom
Canyoning? try http://ozultimate.com/canyoning
Bushwalking? try
Graeme - are you saying that you are tagging them all the same? Just as
separate ways?
cheers
Tom
Canyoning? try http://ozultimate.com/canyoning
Bushwalking? try http://bushwalkingnsw.com
On 23/09/2021 9:11 am, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
When I've found the same situation, I've just left
I'm not much of a fan of the term "pipestem", but as you say, the actual
key name is irrelevant - as long as the use is agreed. Certainly, I just
mentally translate it as "shared_driveway".
It seems to fill a useful niche, given the number of times recently I've
seen a driveway leading to
Thanks to Phil for pointing out to me it's "pipestem" not "pipestream".
On Thu, 23 Sept 2021 at 12:34, Alex Sims wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I hadn't seen the "pipestream" before, and it does look to have some
> utility.
>
> I'd much prefer that (legally) public roads be
> highway=residential/unclassified
Hi,
I hadn't seen the "pipestream" before, and it does look to have some utility.
I'd much prefer that (legally) public roads be highway=residential/unclassified
etc so as these will all be present in government data.
If it's private (even shared between many people) then it should be a
"so why isn't it just a simple highway=residential?"
in this case https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/203549225
either highway=service or highway=residential are OK with me
highway=service can be achieved by reversion in this case and there
are approximately 5000 ways to deal with. Not all are
driveway=pipestream sounds good. It's got more usage than
service=pipestream. It's nice to have a way to distinguish these from
non-shared driveways.
I've never heard the term before either, must be american, but that's fine,
many of the existing key values are UK terms and don't apply globally,
On Thu, 23 Sept 2021 at 09:11, wrote:
> Does a pipestem describe https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/203549225
> better
> than the simpler highway= service? I think I prefer highway= service
>
I've also never heard of "pipestem" driveways.
In regard to Lilliput Lane, it appears to have houses
When I've found the same situation, I've just left it as a single
service=driveway from the road to where it splits, then two (or however
many) more driveways from that point to each house.
Thanks
Graeme
On Thu, 23 Sept 2021 at 08:37, Tom Brennan wrote:
> In doing the rounds of the
Hi
The possibility of retagging user HighRouleur's highway= service
service=driveway ways to highway= service service=driveway
driveway=pipestem
occurred to me as well. But I have never heard of a pipestem before.
Maybe its something that is only done in the US? My thought was that
if I
In doing the rounds of the Willoughby LGA, I've noticed there are quite
a lot of shared driveways. This has likely come about from where one
previously large block has been subdivided - sometimes multiple times.
Each block typically has access to the main road via a narrow strip of
land, on
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