Re: [talk-au] traffic lights on dual carriageway intersections

2012-11-07 Thread Steer
So, Ian Sergeant has presented reasoning why we should not pursue more complicated schemes for applying traffic lights to intersections of dual carriageways - fair enough. This brings me back to the incident that triggered me to start this thread: there are several intersections of dual

Re: [talk-au] traffic lights on dual carriageway intersections

2012-11-07 Thread Ian Sergeant
On 07/11/12 23:21, Steer wrote: So, Ian Sergeant has presented reasoning why we should not pursue more complicated schemes for applying traffic lights to intersections of dual carriageways -- fair enough. That is not quite what I said. I'd be happy to see a more detailed schema that is

Re: [talk-au] traffic lights on dual carriageway intersections

2012-11-04 Thread Ian Steer
By choosing to place traffic light not on the intersection node, you are failing to represent that this is an intersection of two roads, controlled by traffic signals. I don't see how it is failing to represent that - the intersection is there (the ways intersect at nodes), and there are

Re: [talk-au] traffic lights on dual carriageway intersections

2012-11-04 Thread Ian Sergeant
On 4 November 2012 20:58, Ian Steer ianst...@iinet.net.au wrote: By choosing to place traffic light not on the intersection node, you are failing to represent that this is an intersection of two roads, controlled by traffic signals. I don't see how it is failing to represent that - the

Re: [talk-au] traffic lights on dual carriageway intersections

2012-11-04 Thread Nick Hocking
Ian Steer wrote I think this is good because no matter which way you go through the intersection, you only pass one set of lights (rather than 2 if they were placed on the actual intersecting nodes). Couldn't a smart traffic light counter detect dual carrageways and just add a single signal,

Re: [talk-au] traffic lights on dual carriageway intersections

2012-11-03 Thread John Henderson
Steer wrote: I have been trying to find the accepted practise for mapping traffic lights where dual carriageways interest. There is much discussion on various sites, but most seems to be a bit old, and I’m not convinced I’ve found what is the latest accepted practise. I checked some

Re: [talk-au] traffic lights on dual carriageway intersections

2012-11-03 Thread Ross Scanlon
And the only area it's done like this is in Melbourne. Cheers Ross On 03/11/12 17:03, John Henderson wrote: Steer wrote: I have been trying to find the accepted practise for mapping traffic lights where dual carriageways interest. There is much discussion on various sites, but most seems to

Re: [talk-au] traffic lights on dual carriageway intersections

2012-11-03 Thread Alex Sims
On 3/11/2012 5:33 PM, John Henderson wrote: I checked some intersections in Melbourne’s CBD, and the method I saw that I liked and thought the best was where there were 4 lights at the intersection, but they were not placed on the intersecting modes, but one node back “upstream” on each way. I

Re: [talk-au] traffic lights on dual carriageway intersections

2012-11-03 Thread Ian Sergeant
On 03/11/12 18:03, John Henderson wrote: 2. It's the accurate representation of what's on the ground. It lets us convey the significance of the stop lines associated with the lights. That's something we can't do with two-way traffic without compromising point 1. Mapping is choosing a

Re: [talk-au] traffic lights on dual carriageway intersections

2012-11-03 Thread John Henderson
On 04/11/12 07:29, Ian Sergeant wrote: By choosing to place traffic light not on the intersection node, you are failing to represent that this is an intersection of two roads, controlled by traffic signals. Instead you are choosing to represent There is a stop line here and traffic signal and

[talk-au] traffic lights on dual carriageway intersections

2012-11-02 Thread Steer
I have been trying to find the accepted practise for mapping traffic lights where dual carriageways interest. There is much discussion on various sites, but most seems to be a bit old, and I'm not convinced I've found what is the latest accepted practise. I checked some intersections in