Re: [OSM-talk-be] agglomération

2012-11-26 Thread Ben Laenen
On Monday 26 November 2012 18:49:16 A.Pirard.Papou wrote: > But regarding this, where is the complete zone:traffic=BE:* list? (just > one example) > In Belgium, we have more than urban/rural/motorway/etc. > 100-art2> >

Re: [OSM-talk-be] agglomération

2012-11-26 Thread A.Pirard.Papou
Hi, As I am against always changing the subject line of discussions, I resent with the original one. But it's also to add that, in my opinion, the tagging must respect the categories that the national law defines (our code de la route). There is no point in trying to forcefully adapt foreig

[OSM-talk-be] zone30/50/70 vs Bebouwde kom/Agglomération/Built-up area (zone:traffic={BE,UK,...}:*)

2012-11-26 Thread A.Pirard.Papou
On 2012-11-23 22:58, Kytömaa Lauri wrote : If it's just the traffic rules urban vs. rural, there's the tag (with 37 000+ uses) zone:traffic=**:rural zone:traffic=**:urban where ** is the two letter country code. On 2012-11-26 13:16, Marc Gemis

Re: [OSM-talk-be] zone30/50/70 vs Bebouwde kom/Agglomération/Built-up area

2012-11-26 Thread A.Pirard.Papou
On 2012-11-26 16:55, Ben Laenen wrote : Also, why the "BE" prefix, these roads are in Belgium, no need to duplicate that information on all the roads. I'm much interested in this remark. For writing POI files, one must determine in which municipality (polygonal relation) a street (way) is. H

Re: [OSM-talk-be] zone30/50/70 vs Bebouwde kom/Agglomération/Built-up area

2012-11-26 Thread Ben Laenen
On Monday 26 November 2012 17:33:22 Jo wrote: > I got the urban/rural from the tagging or talk mailing list. I have never > seen built-up area as a tag on OSM. http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=maxspeed:default#values but I have to admit that a lot of those are probably mine :-) It was a

Re: [OSM-talk-be] zone30/50/70 vs Bebouwde kom/Agglomération/Built-up area

2012-11-26 Thread Jo
I got the urban/rural from the tagging or talk mailing list. I have never seen built-up area as a tag on OSM. I did see city limit, but personally I always heard city limitS. So even though I am not entirely happy with urban, it's short and to the point and apparently it's already used extensively

Re: [OSM-talk-be] zone30/50/70 vs Bebouwde kom/Agglomération/Built-up area

2012-11-26 Thread Ben Laenen
On Monday 26 November 2012 16:41:41 Jo wrote: > I created the following mapcss style to help visualize, alongside the > alreayd existing maxspeed style: > > way["zone:traffic"="BE:urban"]::built-up_area Can't we just use "built-up_area" as a value? Small villages aren't exactly "urban", but th

[OSM-talk-be] zone30/50/70 vs Bebouwde kom/Agglomération/Built-up area

2012-11-26 Thread Jo
One week ago I had never heard of the zone:traffic tags. I didn't have a clue how one could tag streets as part of built-up area/city limits or out of it. For many years this is something I have been wanting to do though. So I was glad I finally learned how it could/should be done in one of the man

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Talk-be Digest, Vol 59, Issue 29

2012-11-26 Thread A.Pirard.Papou
Can we please use meaningful Subject:? Not "Talk-be Digest", thank you. They are not easy to find in the archives. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Talk-be Digest, Vol 59, Issue 29

2012-11-26 Thread Glenn Plas
On 11/26/2012 02:06 PM, eMerzh wrote: Hi, zone:traffic is a Defacto standard? ... http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=zone%3Atraffic#overview ==> 38 217 objects http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=source%3Amaxspeed#overview ==> 211 488 objects... so for me the later is more

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Talk-be Digest, Vol 59, Issue 29

2012-11-26 Thread Jan-willem De Bleser
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Glenn Plas wrote: > > ah, afaik, zone:traffic , it seems to be a defacto standard. See > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/trafficzone > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:zone:traffic > > First time I've seen it in use though indeed. Ah,

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Talk-be Digest, Vol 59, Issue 29

2012-11-26 Thread eMerzh
Hi, zone:traffic is a Defacto standard? ... http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=zone%3Atraffic#overview ==> 38 217 objects http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=source%3Amaxspeed#overview ==> 211 488 objects... so for me the later is more used On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 1:59 PM, G

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Talk-be Digest, Vol 59, Issue 29

2012-11-26 Thread Glenn Plas
On 11/26/2012 01:49 PM, Jan-willem De Bleser wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Glenn Plas wrote: I think because we don't live in Germany. You should use BE not DE. He's talking about using "source:maxspeed" versus "zone:traffic", not BE vs DE... - Jw _

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Talk-be Digest, Vol 59, Issue 29

2012-11-26 Thread Jan-willem De Bleser
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Glenn Plas wrote: > I think because we don't live in Germany. > > You should use BE not DE. He's talking about using "source:maxspeed" versus "zone:traffic", not BE vs DE... - Jw ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openst

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Talk-be Digest, Vol 59, Issue 29

2012-11-26 Thread Glenn Plas
I think because we don't live in Germany. You should use BE not DE. Glenn On 11/26/2012 01:16 PM, Marc Gemis wrote: Jo, can I ask you why you do not follow the description of http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:source:maxspeed ? which states e.g. : (where the speed limit is defined by a

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Talk-be Digest, Vol 59, Issue 29

2012-11-26 Thread Marc Gemis
Jo, can I ask you why you do not follow the description of http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:source:maxspeed ? which states e.g. : (where the speed limit is defined by a particular context, for example urban/rural/motorway/etc.) Where the speed limit is indicated by special speed limits sig

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Zones 30 in Belgium

2012-11-26 Thread Jo
The category in OSMOSE is simply called Openstreetbugs. I went to have a look at some of the bugs you solved and I think it's important to add why there is a speed limit of 30 or 50. If the limit comes from a zoneXX or built-up area. There are other traffic rules that are affected by this as well.