Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-22 Thread Denis Carriere
There's been a lot of discussion on the license, however has anyone read the documentation on the import yet? Could the OSM Talk-CA provide any feedback on this, that way once the license is sorted out we can start immediately afterwards.

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-22 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/22/2017 9:06 AM, James wrote: So if I understand correctly Paul, CC0 or any other license would require permission as a bypass to the license, even though it would be considered compatible with ODBL. No. CC0 is compatible with the ODbL, so you can just go ahead and use the data*,

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-22 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/22/2017 9:48 AM, James wrote: So why is this not considered the exact same as OGL-CA, which is considered compatible with ODBL? As mentioned previously, the OGL-CA is compatible because the Federal government has said so for their data. The Federal government's statement only applies

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-22 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/22/2017 7:07 AM, John Marshall wrote: Paul, So once we get a letter from the City of Ottawa, are we good to add the buildings as per the wiki? It depends what they say in their reply. If they say no, then we can't use their data. If we have a suitable reply, then we are able to legally

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-22 Thread Stewart C. Russell
On 2017-01-22 12:48 PM, James wrote: > > So why is this not considered the exact same as OGL-CA, which is > considered compatible with ODBL? My understanding of why it's not the same: 1) The OGL-CA, due to a fault in its design, can only be used by the Canadian Federal Government. Contrast that

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-22 Thread James
If someone actually read the introduction, it is saying exactly what Steve is saying: replacing governing bodies. This licence is based on version 2.0 of the Open Government Licence – Canada, which was developed through public consultation. The only substantive changes in this licence are to

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-22 Thread Steve Singer
On Sat, 21 Jan 2017, Paul Norman wrote: On 1/20/2017 6:00 PM, James wrote: Is OGL-CA not compatible with osm? The license isn't OGL-CA. OGL-CA is the license from the Federal government, while the City of Ottawa uses the ODL. In the case of OGL-CA data it's compatible because they gave a

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-22 Thread James
What I don't understand is even if there was the most open license possible, you are requiring to get an authorisation to use the data...So what's the point of having a legal group or dealing with licensing as if a restrictive copyrighted dataset that sues anyone who uses the data, if we have

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-22 Thread John Marshall
Paul, So once we get a letter from the City of Ottawa, are we good to add the buildings as per the wiki? John On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:41 AM, john whelan wrote: > There is another way forward for Stats at the moment and that would be to > use the Statistics Canada

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing with Statistics Canada

2017-01-22 Thread John Marshall
I agree with Bernie. The intent of the City of Ottawa was for this data to be added to OSM. John Marshall Ottawa On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Bernie Connors wrote: > Stewart, > > Governments are writing open data policies, creating open data > portals, and

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing with Statistics Canada

2017-01-22 Thread Bernie Connors
Stewart,       Governments are writing open data policies, creating open data portals, and adopting the OGL-CA Licence because they want their data to be used. There are many benefits for governments to do this. It makes them appear more transparent, it supports citizens, businesses  and

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-22 Thread john whelan
There is another way forward for Stats at the moment and that would be to use the Statistics Canada address file which is available on the Federal Government Open Data portal under the Federal Government Open Data licence. The addresses are nodes rather than building outlines but there is nothing

Re: [Talk-ca] Talk-ca Digest, Vol 107, Issue 17

2017-01-22 Thread Bjenk Ellefsen
Stewart, thank you for providing more details. What exactly in Ottawa's new open Data license (it recently was updated) is a problem for OSM? Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 22, 2017, at 7:00 AM, talk-ca-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: > > Send Talk-ca mailing list submissions to >

hebdoOSM Nº 339 10/01/2017-16/01/2017

2017-01-22 Thread weeklyteam
Bonjour, Le résumé hebdomadaire n° 339 de l'actualité OpenStreetMap vient de paraître en français. Un condensé à retrouver à: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/archives/8619/ Bonne lecture! hebdoOSM? Qui?: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages Où?: