Re: [Talk-ca] Expanding vs abbreviating

2018-02-20 Thread Matthew Darwin 
Maybe the wiki needs updating, because it doesn't align with this 
discussion:


https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canadian_tagging_guidelines


   Street names

Many Canadian cities and towns use the grid based structure, the 
presence of numbered streets and avenues is very common.


/Suggestion:/ Name these streets/avenues with the full name (such as 
51st Street Northeast) and let the renderer sort out the abbreviation 
where required. Where the numbering system ends below 30, consider 
spelling out the numbers.




Matthew Darwin
matt...@mdarwin.ca
http://www.mdarwin.ca

On 2018-02-20 09:20 PM, Stewart C. Russell wrote:

On 2018-02-20 01:15 PM, Viajero Perdido wrote:

But if that changes it so it's no longer "the name", logically that rule
doesn't apply.

It seems that in the US cities in OSM that I've looked at, mappers have
been fairly (but not completely) consistent in using full quadrant
names: Northeast, Northwest, …

Quadrant addresses in Canadian cities seem to be almost perfectly
consistent in using NE, NW, …

I must admit, the US map looks very strange with the words spelled out
in full.

  Stewart



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Re: [Talk-ca] Expanding vs abbreviating

2018-02-20 Thread Viajero Perdido 


I continue to assert that our (OSM's) name=* wiki states these 
abbreviations should be fully expanded and that official_name=* might 
hold the abbreviation.


Hi Everyone.

I'll pop in here because I'd hate to see this considered "discussed and 
approved". (And replying a day late because I'm still getting the hang 
of mailing list technology.  Hope it doesn't catch on.)


From the wiki, "If the name is incorrect when spelled in full, however, 
do not falsely expand it."

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Names#Abbreviation_.28don.27t_do_it.29

On a related note, I live in Edmonton, where every street has a quadrant 
suffix, usually "NW".  The city made those abbreviations, not OSM 
mappers.  It's right there on my property tax bill; I'm paying tax for a 
property that ends in "NW".  I've got the whole city touched up to say 
NW etc. (after an old import) - and it bugs me to see mappers swoop in 
to expand things again.  Luckily the Edmonton wiki has explicit examples 
that agree with me.


My two bits.

Tom, aka VP


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