Re: [Talk-GB] inferred single-carriageway NSL?

2011-03-17 Thread Ed Loach
Peter wrote: > Then there are the '30mph' which should for consistency be '30 mph' (with a space). Kevin replied: > I don't see the point of editing just for consistency. Developers should handle > leading/trailing spaces, or the lack thereof, and different capitalisation, as > without any input

Re: [Talk-GB] inferred single-carriageway NSL?

2011-03-17 Thread Peter Miller
On 17 March 2011 08:52, Ed Loach wrote: > Peter wrote: > > Then there are the '30mph' which should for consistency be '30 > mph' (with a space). > > Kevin replied: > > I don't see the point of editing just for consistency. Developers > should handle > > leading/trailing spaces, or the lack thereo

Re: [Talk-GB] inferred single-carriageway NSL?

2011-03-17 Thread Ed Loach
Peter Miller wrote: > All I ask is that we have a consistent recommendation across OSM > for units. Ie, do units have a space before them or not as a preference? > > Can I suggest you adjust the recommendation back again? It wasn't worded as a recommendation - just someone deciding that the spa

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data

2011-03-17 Thread Derick Rethans
On Wed, 16 Mar 2011, Matt Williams wrote: > Greetings all, > > For the last week I've been working on a sort of 'replacement' for the > Royal Mail's postcode/address finder (you know, the one with the ~5 > queries a day limit without an account) [1] but based entirely on data > in the OSM databas

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data

2011-03-17 Thread Craig Loftus
Nice work Matt, I look forward to an alternative to RM's postcode finder. > - Largely based on the Karlsruhe Schema (including the associatedStreet > relation for grouping houses together) A question with regard to your handling of associatedStreet; how do you tag for and 'parse' multi-segment s

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data

2011-03-17 Thread Derick Rethans
On Wed, 16 Mar 2011, Matt Williams wrote: > On 16 March 2011 21:16, Tim François wrote: > > Good work! > > > > I just tried searching based on house number and street name, and it didn't > > work if I didn't capitalise the first letters of the street name. Is this a > > feature or a bug? > > Tha

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data

2011-03-17 Thread Ed Loach
Craig wrote: > A practical approach would seem to be for an implementation to > accept > multiple instances of the street role, as either ways or relations. > Where a child-relation of role=street is treated as a collection of > segments. It does seem logical. Especially as any street currently m

Re: [Talk-GB] inferred single-carriageway NSL?

2011-03-17 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Peter Miller wrote: > You should note that PotLatch2 uses the space version when using the > 'simple' interface. (What's with the L?) > And anyone who uses PotLatch will be increasing the preponderance of the '30 > mph' version. > > All I ask is that we have a c

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data

2011-03-17 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Matt Williams [mailto:li...@milliams.com] wrote: >Sent: 16 March 2011 7:51 PM >To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org >Subject: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data > >Greetings all, > >For the last week I've been working on a sort of 'replacement' for the Royal >Mail's postcode/address finder (you k

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data

2011-03-17 Thread Ben Pollinger
On 16 March 2011 19:51, Matt Williams wrote: > For the last week I've been working on a sort of 'replacement' for the > Royal Mail's postcode/address finder (you know, the one with the ~5 > queries a day limit without an account) [1] but based entirely on data > in the OSM database. You can find m

Re: [Talk-GB] OS VectorMap District with LandForm Panorama contours overlay

2011-03-17 Thread Luke Smith
The "beta" version of VMD is now available. Details on the OS website at http://blog.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/2011/03/os-vectormap-district-graduates-to-beta-release/ Some things have been generalised, others improved. Still not sure what to think of it really... Luke Luke Smith | Technical Dire

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data

2011-03-17 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 16 March 2011 19:51, Matt Williams wrote: > For the last week I've been working on a sort of 'replacement' for the > Royal Mail's postcode/address finder That's great; and I trust that my constructive feedback won't be taken as dissing your achievment... You return nothing for "B1 1BB" (Bir

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data

2011-03-17 Thread Tom Chance
On 17 March 2011 12:17, Ben Pollinger wrote: > I tried a few UK streets I had tagged with postcodes and it didn't > work, but I guess that is because they use > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Postal_code > > Could this tag be supported too? It seems quite widely used > http://taginfo.openstre

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data

2011-03-17 Thread Ed Avis
This is great stuff - could I make a few suggestions? - When displaying the textual address put a comma between name and street. For example should show 'Mole Avon, Station Yard'. The comma is not necessary for house

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data

2011-03-17 Thread Ed Avis
Tom Chance writes: >I've been switching any feature I find over to addr:postcode. If this is the consensus view then perhaps they should be changed en masse? At least just for the United Kingdom. What do others think? (I've always used postal_code until now, perhaps because when I started mapp

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data

2011-03-17 Thread Derick Rethans
On Thu, 17 Mar 2011, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 16 March 2011 19:51, Matt Williams wrote: > > > For the last week I've been working on a sort of 'replacement' for the > > Royal Mail's postcode/address finder > > That's great; and I trust that my constructive feedback won't be taken > as dissing y

Re: [Talk-GB] OS VectorMap District with LandForm Panorama contours overlay

2011-03-17 Thread Ed Avis
Luke Smith writes: >The "beta" version of VMD is now available. Details on the OS >website at >http://blog.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/2011/03/ > os-vectormap-district-graduates-to-beta-release/ >Some things have been generalised, others improved. Notably the building shapes are more detailed than be

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data

2011-03-17 Thread Ed Avis
Derick Rethans writes: >>For a common address, such as "2 High Street", you return multiple >>results, with no obvious distinguishing feature. Please include the >>"addr:city" value in the results (if present); >Actually, "city" wouldn't always work. There are f.e. 3 "Victoria Road"s >in London

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data

2011-03-17 Thread Andy Mabbett
P.S. on an individual address's page, such as: http://milliams.dev.openstreetmap.org/postcodefinder/house/way/99795053/69/ it would be helpful to add hCard (venue), ADR (address) and GEO (coordinates; if shown on the page, which would be good) microformats, so that the details can be added ea

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data

2011-03-17 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 17 March 2011 12:49, Derick Rethans wrote: > On Thu, 17 Mar 2011, Andy Mabbett wrote: >> For a common address, such as "2 High Street", you return multiple >> results, with no obvious distinguishing feature. Please include the >> "addr:city" value in the results (if present); and allow search

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data

2011-03-17 Thread Matt Williams
On 17 March 2011 12:09, Craig Loftus wrote: > Nice work Matt, I look forward to an alternative to RM's postcode finder. > >> - Largely based on the Karlsruhe Schema (including the associatedStreet >> relation for grouping houses together) > > A question with regard to your handling of associatedS

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data

2011-03-17 Thread Matt Williams
On 17 March 2011 12:09, Derick Rethans wrote: > On Wed, 16 Mar 2011, Matt Williams wrote: > >> Greetings all, >> >> For the last week I've been working on a sort of 'replacement' for the >> Royal Mail's postcode/address finder (you know, the one with the ~5 >> queries a day limit without an accoun

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data

2011-03-17 Thread Matt Williams
On 17 March 2011 12:13, Derick Rethans wrote: > On Wed, 16 Mar 2011, Matt Williams wrote: > >> On 16 March 2011 21:16, Tim François wrote: >> > Good work! >> > >> > I just tried searching based on house number and street name, and it didn't >> > work if I didn't capitalise the first letters of th

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data

2011-03-17 Thread Matt Williams
On 17 March 2011 12:29, Ed Loach wrote: > Craig wrote: > >> A practical approach would seem to be for an implementation to >> accept >> multiple instances of the street role, as either ways or > relations. >> Where a child-relation of role=street is treated as a collection > of >> segments. > > It

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data

2011-03-17 Thread Matt Williams
On 17 March 2011 13:04, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: > Excellent work Matt. > > http://milliams.dev.openstreetmap.org/postcodefinder/search/?postcode=B72 Yup, that's the page I'm most likely to show off to people. Good work. > If you want to extend, then a custom P2 to enable folks to

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data

2011-03-17 Thread Matt Williams
On 17 March 2011 13:17, Ben Pollinger wrote: > On 16 March 2011 19:51, Matt Williams wrote: >> For the last week I've been working on a sort of 'replacement' for the >> Royal Mail's postcode/address finder (you know, the one with the ~5 >> queries a day limit without an account) [1] but based ent

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data

2011-03-17 Thread Matt Williams
On 17 March 2011 13:37, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 16 March 2011 19:51, Matt Williams wrote: >> For the last week I've been working on a sort of 'replacement' for the >> Royal Mail's postcode/address finder > > That's great; and I trust that my constructive feedback won't be taken > as dissing your

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data

2011-03-17 Thread Matt Williams
On 17 March 2011 13:40, Tom Chance wrote: > On 17 March 2011 12:17, Ben Pollinger wrote: >> >> I tried a few UK streets I had tagged with postcodes and it didn't >> work, but I guess that is because they use >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Postal_code >> >> Could this tag be supported too?

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data

2011-03-17 Thread Matt Williams
On 17 March 2011 13:41, Ed Avis wrote: > This is great stuff - could I make a few suggestions? > > - When displaying the textual address put a comma between name and street. >  For example >   >  should show 'Mole Avon, Stat

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data

2011-03-17 Thread Matt Williams
On 17 March 2011 13:49, Derick Rethans wrote: > On Thu, 17 Mar 2011, Andy Mabbett wrote: >> On 16 March 2011 19:51, Matt Williams wrote: >> >> > For the last week I've been working on a sort of 'replacement' for the >> > Royal Mail's postcode/address finder >> >> That's great; and I trust that my

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data

2011-03-17 Thread Matt Williams
On 17 March 2011 14:02, Andy Mabbett wrote: > P.S. on an individual address's page, such as: > >    http://milliams.dev.openstreetmap.org/postcodefinder/house/way/99795053/69/ > > it would be helpful to add hCard (venue), ADR (address) and GEO > (coordinates; if shown on the page, which would be g

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data

2011-03-17 Thread Tim François
> > > - Have you considered using the Code Point Open data as a fallback in > case the > > postcode is not in OSM? It would not allow an exact address to be > pinpointed > > but it could give a link to the right area of the map with a hint to get > to > > work populating it fully. > > Yup, this

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data

2011-03-17 Thread Derick Rethans
On Thu, 17 Mar 2011, Matt Williams wrote: > On 17 March 2011 13:17, Ben Pollinger wrote: > > On 16 March 2011 19:51, Matt Williams wrote: > >> For the last week I've been working on a sort of 'replacement' for the > >> Royal Mail's postcode/address finder (you know, the one with the ~5 > >> quer

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data

2011-03-17 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 17/03/2011 14:33, Derick Rethans wrote: On Thu, 17 Mar 2011, Matt Williams wrote: snip.. It doesn't currently parse any postcode tag on highway=* roads since strictly it's not the roads themselves that have postcodes, but the houses themselves. I didn't want to encourage this too much I guess

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data

2011-03-17 Thread Matt Williams
On 17 March 2011 15:53, Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM wrote: > Several local authorities (certainly Broxtowe, Gedling and Rushcliffe) round > here have postcodes on street signs: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/sk53_osm/5534947666/ > > I therefore tag the streets with them. Hmm, now that I think abou

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data

2011-03-17 Thread Ed Avis
Matt Williams writes: >I'm not sure that adding the postcoded street itself to my database >would work since the base unit I work with is the 'house' or 'delivery >point' whereas the street is simply part of the address. That's absolutely right but it might still be useful to provide a postcode-

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data

2011-03-17 Thread Matt Williams
On 17 March 2011 16:25, Ed Avis wrote: > Matt Williams writes: > >>I'm not sure that adding the postcoded street itself to my database >>would work since the base unit I work with is the 'house' or 'delivery >>point' whereas the street is simply part of the address. > > That's absolutely right bu

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data

2011-03-17 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
Matt Williams [mailto:li...@milliams.com] wrote: Sent: 16 March 2011 7:51 PM To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data Greetings all, For the last week I've been working on a sort of 'replacement' for the ... Works a treat and it's great to see all my

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data

2011-03-17 Thread Matt Williams
On 17 March 2011 17:44, Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM wrote: >> Matt Williams [mailto:li...@milliams.com] wrote: >>> >>> Sent: 16 March 2011 7:51 PM >>> To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org >>> Subject: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data >>> >>> Greetings all, >>> >>> For the last week I've been wo

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data

2011-03-17 Thread Matt Williams
On 17 March 2011 14:45, Matt Williams wrote: > On 17 March 2011 13:49, Derick Rethans wrote: >> I found something else odd too: >> >> http://milliams.dev.openstreetmap.org/postcodefinder/search/?postcode=NW6 >> >> returns: >> >> # NW6 7JN   http://milliams.dev.openstreetmap.org/postcodefinder/NW6

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data

2011-03-17 Thread Matt Williams
On 17 March 2011 14:35, Matt Williams wrote: > On 17 March 2011 13:37, Andy Mabbett wrote: >> On 16 March 2011 19:51, Matt Williams wrote: >>> For the last week I've been working on a sort of 'replacement' for the >>> Royal Mail's postcode/address finder >> >> That's great; and I trust that my c

[Talk-GB] LandForm Panorama + VectorMap District + OSM Footpaths : Method

2011-03-17 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Have put up a wiki page detailing how the 'pseudo-Landranger' map at http://www.free-map.org.uk/expts/vmdlfp200/ was created... http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/VMD_plus_LFP_plus_OSM Nick ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://l

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data

2011-03-17 Thread Matt Williams
On 17 March 2011 18:55, Matt Williams wrote: > On 17 March 2011 17:44, Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM > wrote: >> A few weeks ago I did pull out postcodes from all tagged objects & compared >> them with CodePoint, IIRC OSM had about 0.6% of them (around 7000 in >> addr:postcode format, and another 4