Re: [Talk-GB] ref:hectares on admin boundary, and non-responsive mapper

2016-08-16 Thread Dave F
On 16/08/2016 17:28, Colin Smale wrote: Dave, if the is_in values are based on common usage rather than administrative reality, then it would actually be correct to leave them unchanged. If a better way of doing something is created then the old methods become redundant & should be

Re: [Talk-GB] ref:hectares on admin boundary, and non-responsive mapper

2016-08-16 Thread Andy Townsend
On 16/08/2016 21:57, Colin Smale wrote: Having just received another "too busy mapping" response to a changeset comment I have requested DWG to give alexkemp a 0-minute block to remind him of his duty to engage with the community in a proper way. We (the Data Working Group) normally use

Re: [Talk-GB] ref:hectares on admin boundary, and non-responsive mapper

2016-08-16 Thread Colin Smale
Having just received another "too busy mapping" response to a changeset comment I have requested DWG to give alexkemp a 0-minute block to remind him of his duty to engage with the community in a proper way. Colin On 2016-08-16 14:55, Dave F wrote: > +1 > > Also his use of is_in:* is also

Re: [Talk-GB] Possible use of OS triangulation stations to determine aerial imagery offset

2016-08-16 Thread David Woolley
On 16/08/16 15:22, Greg wrote: There is also a FOI request with a full CSV file here: FOI responses don't remove any copyright and I don't think they even given any right to republish the data. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] ref:hectares on admin boundary, and non-responsive mapper

2016-08-16 Thread Colin Smale
Dave, if the is_in values are based on common usage rather than administrative reality, then it would actually be correct to leave them unchanged. The point I am trying to make, is that I see a need to support a variety of addressing/location systems, which are all correct in their own way, but

Re: [Talk-GB] ref:hectares on admin boundary, and non-responsive mapper

2016-08-16 Thread Dave F
I queried Alex's rational: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/alexkemp/diary/39062 As I noted is_in tags are hard-coded so become inaccurate if boundaries change. I also asked about Nominatim's search criteria on the Talk forum:

Re: [Talk-GB] ref:hectares on admin boundary, and non-responsive mapper

2016-08-16 Thread Colin Smale
In the specific case of the UK, I am not convinced that is_in has no value at all. This is because of the huge divergence between people's perceptions and administrative reality. If you ask someone to give their location/current address, they will most likely refer to the postal addressing system,

[Talk-GB] Possible use of OS triangulation stations to determine aerial imagery offset

2016-08-16 Thread Greg
Dear all, Ordnance Survey has a database of triangulation stations and their precise locations as OSGB36 (National Grid) co-ordinates publicly available here: https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/gps/legacy-control-information/triangulation-stations. There is also a FOI request with a full CSV file

Re: [Talk-GB] ref:hectares on admin boundary, and non-responsive mapper

2016-08-16 Thread Dave F
+1 Also his use of is_in:* is also redundant when the boundary tag is used, Dave F. On 16/08/2016 13:25, Andy Allan wrote: On 16 August 2016 at 13:11, Will Phillips wrote: Regarding the 'ref:hectares' tag, it does seem wrong to me. It's not consistent with other uses of

Re: [Talk-GB] Defibrillator Mapping

2016-08-16 Thread Andy Townsend
On 16/08/2016 09:35, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: As in other areas, our mapping of Defibrillators in the East Midlands doesn't seem to be very complete yet... Thanks Robert. The two nearest to me that I'm aware of are actually very new - they've only appeared within the last couple

Re: [Talk-GB] Defibrillator Mapping

2016-08-16 Thread Dave F
Hi What a ridiculous response from South West Ambulance Services: "There is a significant risk arising from a list of community defibrillators appearing in the public domain..." Clearly Mr Ken Wenman is unaware that 'community' & 'public' are one & the same. They're even publicly tweeting

Re: [Talk-GB] ref:hectares on admin boundary, and non-responsive mapper

2016-08-16 Thread Will Phillips
On 15/08/2016 08:39, Colin Smale wrote: Hi, I noticed a number of new admin boundaries have been tagged with ref:hectares=* with the numeric value giving the area of the entity in hectares. This feels to me like an inappropriate use of "ref" and also redundant as the area can be calculated

Re: [Talk-GB] Defibrillator Mapping

2016-08-16 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
Just to let you know, that I've now got another dataset in my Defibrillator comparison tool at http://robert.mathmos.net/osm/defib/ . East Midlands Ambulance Service has provided the locations of AEDs that they know about, and these have now been imported into the tool. As in other areas, our