Re: [Talk-GB] UK Quarterly Project: Post Offices

On 02/05/18 18:52, ael wrote: I am confused:-) How should a Royal mail local delivery office be tagged? It seems that it is not amenity=post_office. I notice that I have used post_depot once some time ago, but that doesn't seem to be in the wiki (or in the presets for josm). Yet I am sure that

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Quarterly Project: Post Offices

On Wed, May 02, 2018 at 05:17:56PM +0100, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: > We're now one month in to the current Quarterly Project, which aims to > use some official Post Office Ltd. branch data released under the OGL > to help improve the mapping of Post Offices in OpenStreetMap. I am

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] May Meeting

Sorry, will be in Germany. Cheers Andy From: Brian Prangle [mailto:br...@mappa-mercia.org] Sent: 02 May 2018 14:13 To: OSM Group WM Subject: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] May Meeting Hi everyone Just a reminder we are NOT meeting tomorrow but the following Thursday May 10th. May I suggest

[Talk-GB] UK Quarterly Project: Post Offices

We're now one month in to the current Quarterly Project, which aims to use some official Post Office Ltd. branch data released under the OGL to help improve the mapping of Post Offices in OpenStreetMap. As you can see from the graph at http://robert.mathmos.net/osm/postoffice/#history there has

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

As long as we're dealing with advisory signs erected by an official body rather than a vigilante neighborhood busybody, I think the maxspeed:advisory= tag would be appropriate. Regards Adam ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

[Talk-gb-westmidlands] May Meeting

Hi everyone Just a reminder we are NOT meeting tomorrow but the following Thursday May 10th. May I suggest Knowle/Dorridge (rail station in Dorridge for those arriving by public transport) in Solihull and meetup in the Red Lion Knowle for 8pm? Let me know if you're intending to attend Regards

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

On 02/05/18 13:03, Craig Wallace wrote: A 20 sign with a green circle is advisory. A 20 sign with a red circle is a legal limit. Some advisory limits are signed as "Slow zone" or similar. Advisory signs can be put up with no formality. Legal speed limits require a traffic regulation order,

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

I think they are popular in Flintshire around schools. I was certainly somewhat disconcerted by them when I first encountered them. It occurs to me that it may be worth mapping these because of their obvious intent to confuse, but only using highway=traffic_sign. Jerry On 2 May 2018 at 13:31,

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

On 2018-05-02 14:03, Craig Wallace wrote: > A 20 sign with a green circle is advisory. Such signs have apparently no legal status whatsoever. See this FoI request: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/20_mph_speed_limit_signs_with_gr There may be a difference in liability, if you exceed

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

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[Talk-GB] A few too many icons at The Tower of London

Hi In the latest OSM-Carto upgrade an icon was added for historic=castle. Which highlights a bit of a problem with the tagging of The Tower of London (1) The walls are split individually as the turrets have names. Most of those tags are duplicated with an building=castle.  I think there

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

On 2018-05-02 11:53, Jez Nicholson wrote: Oh, this is fun. So, correct me if i'm wrong: a "20 mph zone" doesn't have/need repeaters because it is not actually the legal speed limit. It is advisory to travel at that speed because traffic calming makes it hard not to. A 20 sign with a green

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

Single or dual carriageway has nothing to do with restricted access. It is whether or not each direction is a different physically separate carriageway. The division can be a strip of grass. Phil (trigpoint) On 2 May 2018 12:34:56 BST, Tobias Zwick wrote: >Also, > >6.

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

Restricted Road is the correct formal term for roads where the default 30mph limit applies. That said, it is not a term that most people will recognise (unlike single/dual carriageway). Adam On Wed, 2 May 2018, 12:36 Tobias Zwick, wrote: > Also, > > 6. Did you come up with

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

Also, 6. Did you come up with the term "restricted" or is the term actually used within the same context as single / dual carriageway in the UK legislation? Because, that term is usually used for quite another thing in OSM context (restricted access roads). But, as long as the nsl_* taggings in

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

On 02/05/18 12:06, Adam Snape wrote: Sorry, for clarity, both '20 mph zones' and '20mph limits' are actual legal limits, not just advisory. In the former case, the sign on entry to the zone coupled with the traffic calming is thought to be enough to make drivers aware of the reduced speed

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

On 02-May-18 11:55, Philip Barnes wrote: I believe it's DoT policy not to allow 30mph repeaters (at least, someone told me that). True for roads with street lighting, but quite common, and required, on 30 mph roads with no street lights. Ah, yes, thank you (both) for the clarification.

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

On 2 May 2018 11:53:20 BST, Jez Nicholson wrote: >Oh, this is fun. So, correct me if i'm wrong: a "20 mph zone" doesn't >have/need repeaters because it is not actually the legal speed limit. >It is >advisory to travel at that speed because traffic calming makes it hard

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

A 20 mph zone is a 20mph speed limit area. 20 mph repeater signs are judged not to be necessary because the traffic calming measures physically limit the speed of traffic. A 20 mph limit simply imposed on an existing road without traffic calming is deemed to require repeaters to differentiate it

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

On 2 May 2018 11:46:35 BST, John Aldridge wrote: >On 01-May-18 16:29, Philip Barnes wrote: >>> And yes, you may have to go back several roads before you see the >>> speed limit sign. No all local authorities put up the repeater signs >>> but that doesn't mean that the speed

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

On Wed, 2 May 2018, 11:47 John Aldridge, wrote: > I believe it's DoT policy not to allow 30mph repeaters (at least, > someone told me that > This is correct on street lit where the 30mph limit would apply by default. 30mph repeaters can (and should) be used if a 30mph limit

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

Oh, this is fun. So, correct me if i'm wrong: a "20 mph zone" doesn't have/need repeaters because it is not actually the legal speed limit. It is advisory to travel at that speed because traffic calming makes it hard not to. On Wed, 2 May 2018 at 11:36 Adam Snape wrote:

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

On 01-May-18 16:29, Philip Barnes wrote: And yes, you may have to go back several roads before you see the speed limit sign. No all local authorities put up the repeater signs but that doesn't mean that the speed limit stops applying. And 30mph limits don't need repeaters, for example it is

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

The school lights I'm aware of which refer to a maximum speed are advisory rather than mandatory. The actual legal speed limit remains the same. Adam On Wed, 2 May 2018, 11:17 Brian Prangle, wrote: > Just to further complicate matters there can also be conditional 20 mph >

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

Just to further complicate matters there can also be conditional 20 mph speed limits on roads passing schools, so they're default 30mph unless the condition is met when they're 20 mph - condition is usually flashing lights during school opening and closing times Regards Brian On 1 May 2018 at