Re: [Talk-GB] National Trust Paths organised edit page

2019-09-02 Thread Jez Nicholson
Community input to the plan is important. Any points you would like to discuss can be added to https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Organised_Editing/Activities/National_Trust_Paths On Tue, 3 Sep 2019, 07:02 Warin, <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 3/9/19 8:22 am, David Woolley wrote: > >

Re: [Talk-GB] National Trust Paths organised edit page

2019-09-02 Thread Warin
On 3/9/19 8:22 am, David Woolley wrote: On 02/09/2019 23:13, Warin wrote: On 3/9/19 2:53 am, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: On 02/09/2019 14:58, David Woolley wrote: This could conflict with a trend that I believe is developing, at least for more formal roads, of removing signage, because it dis

Re: [Talk-GB] National Trust Paths organised edit page

2019-09-02 Thread David Woolley
On 02/09/2019 23:13, Warin wrote: On 3/9/19 2:53 am, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: On 02/09/2019 14:58, David Woolley wrote: This could conflict with a trend that I believe is developing, at least for more formal roads, of removing signage, because it distracts drivers, and relying on satellite n

Re: [Talk-GB] National Trust Paths organised edit page

2019-09-02 Thread Warin
On 3/9/19 2:53 am, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: On 02/09/2019 14:58, David Woolley wrote: This could conflict with a trend that I believe is developing, at least for more formal roads, of removing signage, because it distracts drivers, and relying on satellite navigators to provide the informati

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping new housing developments in midlothian for Spokes cycle map

2019-09-02 Thread Jez Nicholson
Hi Donald, We would of course love to help, that's 'we' as in 'OSMUK', but of course it isn't something that can be done remotely. We will tweet about it on our account to publicise.please suggest if there's anything else we could do. Regards, Jez On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 3:22 PM

Re: [Talk-GB] National Trust Paths organised edit page

2019-09-02 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
Hi Bullet point replies: * Under the PROW section why are the 'yes' values not 'designated'? * byway_open_to_all_traffic - Why is motor vehicle 'private/no'? * Clarify which tags are optional (ie horse for Footpaths) * Designated ways aren't limited to footway/bridleway/cycleway/track/pat

Re: [Talk-GB] Canoeing infrastructure/river features

2019-09-02 Thread Andy Townsend
On 02/09/2019 17:50, Edward Bainton wrote: Just a quick question: what sort of role should overpass turbo play in my researches on this topic (and on canoe portages especially)? I use it all the time when looking for things that people might have mapped using tags that I wasn't aware of.  In y

Re: [Talk-GB] National Trust Paths organised edit page

2019-09-02 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
On 02/09/2019 14:58, David Woolley wrote: This could conflict with a trend that I believe is developing, at least for more formal roads, of removing signage, because it distracts drivers, and relying on satellite navigators to provide the information instead. What evidence have you of this "t

[Talk-GB] Canoeing infrastructure/river features

2019-09-02 Thread Edward Bainton
Hi again Jez & others, Just a quick question: what sort of role should overpass turbo play in my researches on this topic (and on canoe portages especially)? Is it an inductive browse for 'the feel of the map'? Do people like stats when discussing new/changed tags, and if so what sort? Answers t

Re: [Talk-GB] National Trust Paths organised edit page

2019-09-02 Thread Andy Townsend
On 02/09/2019 16:57, Mark Goodge wrote: I'm a little puzzled by one of the lines on the permissions grid on that page. There's a line for "Legal RoW but access discouraged", with a suggested tagging of "discouraged/private" for pedestrians (and similar tags for other users). Quite apart from

Re: [Talk-GB] National Trust Paths organised edit page

2019-09-02 Thread Mark Goodge
On 02/09/2019 14:30, Jez Nicholson wrote: Following on from their talk at the OSMUK AGM, the National Trust have now created an official 'organised edit' page for their footpath project https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Organised_Editing/Activities/National_Trust_Paths I'm a little puzzled

Re: [Talk-GB] National Trust Paths organised edit page

2019-09-02 Thread Mark Goodge
On 02/09/2019 14:58, David Woolley wrote: On 02/09/2019 14:48, Frederik Ramm wrote: Sometimes they want us to add a "vehicle=no" to a track that has absolutely no signposts whatsoever locally, meaning that nobody can verify that vehicles are forbidden and no local motorist would be turned away

Re: [Talk-GB] National Trust Paths organised edit page

2019-09-02 Thread Jez Nicholson
Indeed, Frederik speaks wise words. The role of OSMUK has been to handhold, that is 'support or guide (someone) during a learning process or a period of change'. We've been there to encourage them to work with the community to identify how they might tag, and for them to publish their plans. On M

Re: [Talk-GB] National Trust Paths organised edit page

2019-09-02 Thread David Woolley
On 02/09/2019 14:48, Frederik Ramm wrote: Sometimes they want us to add a "vehicle=no" to a track that has absolutely no signposts whatsoever locally, meaning that nobody can verify that vehicles are forbidden and no local motorist would be turned away This could conflict with a trend that I be

Re: [Talk-GB] National Trust Paths organised edit page

2019-09-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 02.09.19 15:30, Jez Nicholson wrote: > Following on from their talk at the OSMUK AGM, the National Trust have > now created an official 'organised edit' page for their footpath > project  > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Organised_Editing/Activities/National_Trust_Paths It sounds like

[Talk-GB] National Trust Paths organised edit page

2019-09-02 Thread Jez Nicholson
Following on from their talk at the OSMUK AGM, the National Trust have now created an official 'organised edit' page for their footpath project https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Organised_Editing/Activities/National_Trust_Paths ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] Fixing shop=yes, now it no longer renders on the default OSM map

2019-09-02 Thread Stuart Reynolds
And this is the problem. One of the shop=yes entries in Southend on sea is The Range. I wasn’t sure how to tag it (I was using iD for speed, and it’s list of defined shop tags is fairly minimal) so I tried an overpass query on Name=The Range. I have found, variously (aside from those without a

Re: [Talk-GB] Fixing shop=yes, now it no longer renders on the default OSM map

2019-09-02 Thread Jez Nicholson
Whilst we are on the subject of shops (I hope this isn't dragging the discussion too far off topic) people may be interested how editors like iD and Vespucci get lists of UK shop names to suggest in drop-downs. The Name Suggestion Index contains json encoded descriptions of retail brands and can be

Re: [Talk-GB] Fixing shop=yes, now it no longer renders on the default OSM map

2019-09-02 Thread Jez Nicholson
Thanks for the heads up. I specifically use it when I know that a shop exists, and am due to survey it to say what it is. So I guess it doesn't hurt if those aren't rendered..but please, people in general, don't just delete them. On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 1:43 PM Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) < r

[Talk-GB] Fixing shop=yes, now it no longer renders on the default OSM map

2019-09-02 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
Since version 4.22 of the Carto map style (which was deployed a few days ago), the generic shop=yes tag is no longer rendered on the default OSM-Carto map at https://www.openstreetmap.org/ . For details of the decision see https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/3697 . In Great