Re: [Talk-GB] Automated Code-Point Open postcode editing (simple cases only)

2019-07-30 Thread Andrzej
On 19 July 2019 17:58:58 CEST, Devonshire wrote: > >I know that Robert is sincere in his views but the classic "don't add >data to OSM because it will spoil someone else's enjoyment" always >makes me chuckle. In most parts of the country the idea that the >current cohort of mappers can add

Re: [Talk-GB] Automated Code-Point Open postcode editing (simple cases only)

2019-07-20 Thread Mark Goodge
On 20/07/2019 10:36, Tony Shield wrote: Hi Starting to get a little confused here - my brother lives in Northern Ireland and has a BT postcode which he has given me. Am I allowed to put into OSM? You can add the postcode to any address in OSM, if you know the full address from personal

Re: [Talk-GB] Automated Code-Point Open postcode editing (simple cases only)

2019-07-20 Thread Tony Shield
Hi Starting to get a little confused here - my brother lives in Northern Ireland and has a BT postcode which he has given me. Am I allowed to put into OSM? TonyS999 On 20/07/2019 08:02, Mark Goodge wrote: On 19/07/2019 22:36, nd...@redhazel.co.uk wrote: On 19/07/2019 20:29, Mark Goodge

Re: [Talk-GB] Automated Code-Point Open postcode editing (simple cases only)

2019-07-20 Thread Mark Goodge
On 19/07/2019 22:36, nd...@redhazel.co.uk wrote: On 19/07/2019 20:29, Mark Goodge wrote: ONS postcode products are also OGL, so can be reused in OSM and similar. They're also more useful than Code-Point Open in that they also include lookups to a number of other government codes (such as

Re: [Talk-GB] Automated Code-Point Open postcode editing (simple cases only)

2019-07-19 Thread ndrw6
On 19/07/2019 20:29, Mark Goodge wrote: ONS postcode products are also OGL, so can be reused in OSM and similar. They're also more useful than Code-Point Open in that they also include lookups to a number of other government codes (such as local authority GSS codes). It also differentiates

Re: [Talk-GB] Automated Code-Point Open postcode editing (simple cases only)

2019-07-19 Thread Mark Goodge
On 19/07/2019 15:15, Andrzej wrote: Indeed, Code-Point Open is less than ideal, the issues are almost always caused by lack of differentiation between residential and "large user" postcodes. On the other hand, it is the only legal source of postcodes we have, other than local knowledge, but

Re: [Talk-GB] Automated Code-Point Open postcode editing (simple cases only)

2019-07-19 Thread Devonshire
On Fri, Jul 19, 2019, at 3:21 PM, Andrzej wrote: > > Thank you for your opinion, Robert. I will suspend adding postcodes from > Code-point Open. > > Do others agree with it or would you rather have more postcodes in database > first and work on accuracy and completeness afterwards? > >

Re: [Talk-GB] Automated Code-Point Open postcode editing (simple cases only)

2019-07-19 Thread Lester Caine
On 19/07/2019 15:15, Andrzej wrote: Do others agree with it or would you rather have more postcodes in database first and work on accuracy and completeness afterwards? Andrez ... while the code-point table does provide a list against which missing post codes can be identified, the key piece

Re: [Talk-GB] Automated Code-Point Open postcode editing (simple cases only)

2019-07-19 Thread Andrzej
On 19 July 2019 09:58:52 BST, "Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)" wrote: > >I thus have to object not just to the new proposal but also any >continuation of the previous work to add single postcodes to buildings >under the centroid. Thank you for your opinion, Robert. I will suspend adding

Re: [Talk-GB] Automated Code-Point Open postcode editing (simple cases only)

2019-07-19 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On Tue, 16 Jul 2019 at 22:20, ndrw6 wrote: > Over past several months I've been adding postcodes from Code-Point > Open. I've streamlined the procedure a bit, so I can now add the tags > without spelling out every single one of them, but it is still a manual > and labour intensive process: > >

Re: [Talk-GB] Automated Code-Point Open postcode editing (simple cases only)

2019-07-17 Thread Devonshire
On Wed, Jul 17, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > In that case maybe it would be a good idea to merge existing address-only > nodes > with building outlines as the first step? Some buildings (usually post office locations but also some others such as council offices) can have more

Re: [Talk-GB] Automated Code-Point Open postcode editing (simple cases only)

2019-07-17 Thread Andrzej
These should reasonably easy to remove from the dataset, easier than checking for existing addresses. Thanks for the suggestion. Best regards, ndrw6 On 17 July 2019 18:09:39 BST, David Woolley wrote: >On 16/07/2019 22:19, ndrw6 wrote: >> 3. Use a collation plugin to collate both datasets

Re: [Talk-GB] Automated Code-Point Open postcode editing (simple cases only)

2019-07-17 Thread David Woolley
On 16/07/2019 22:19, ndrw6 wrote: 3. Use a collation plugin to collate both datasets with "centroid distance" set to "< 15m". The condition is there to apply postcodes only to small buildings in direct vicinity of the codepoint centroid. This algorithm will apply PO Box number postcodes to

Re: [Talk-GB] Automated Code-Point Open postcode editing (simple cases only)

2019-07-17 Thread Andrzej
I will try to avoid adding postcodes in these cases. Basically, narrow down the list of postcodes to add to these that don't have any neighbouring objects with addr: tags. Best regards, ndrw6 On 17 July 2019 12:10:32 BST, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: >17 Jul 2019, 12:58 by nd...@redhazel.co.uk:

Re: [Talk-GB] Automated Code-Point Open postcode editing (simple cases only)

2019-07-17 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
17 Jul 2019, 12:58 by nd...@redhazel.co.uk: > I haven't seen such guidelines for the UK myself. In general people prefer > having address tags on buildings. Separate address points are more of a stop > gap solution until building shapes are sufficiently accurate. > In that case maybe it would

Re: [Talk-GB] Automated Code-Point Open postcode editing (simple cases only)

2019-07-17 Thread Andrzej
I haven't seen such guidelines for the UK myself. In general people prefer having address tags on buildings. Separate address points are more of a stop gap solution until building shapes are sufficiently accurate. An exception is addresses on entrances, which some mappers seem to prefer. I

Re: [Talk-GB] Automated Code-Point Open postcode editing (simple cases only)

2019-07-17 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
16 lip 2019, 23:19 od nd...@redhazel.co.uk: > added as separate points rather than tags (automated edit will add > addr:postcode tags directly to the building, this is what I chose to do > manually as well) > Duplicating address data or adding part to a separate node and part to building

[Talk-GB] Automated Code-Point Open postcode editing (simple cases only)

2019-07-16 Thread ndrw6
Hi, Over past several months I've been adding postcodes from Code-Point Open. I've streamlined the procedure a bit, so I can now add the tags without spelling out every single one of them, but it is still a manual and labour intensive process: https://github.com/ndrw6/import_postcodes/