Re: [Talk-GB] Fixing shop=yes, now it no longer renders on the default

2019-09-06 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On Thu, 5 Sep 2019 at 21:35, Mike Baggaley wrote: > Hi Robert, Looks interesting. I've signed in and had a look. However, the > first one I looked at is a petrol station, and the wiki indicates that > shop=yes is the correct tagging as an additional tag for amenity=fuel. Hence > I suggest that

Re: [Talk-GB] Fixing shop=yes, now it no longer renders on the default

2019-09-05 Thread Mike Baggaley
Hi Robert, Looks interesting. I've signed in and had a look. However, the first one I looked at is a petrol station, and the wiki indicates that shop=yes is the correct tagging as an additional tag for amenity=fuel. Hence I suggest that these be omitted from the list requiring replacement. Chee

Re: [Talk-GB] Fixing shop=yes, now it no longer renders on the default OSM map

2019-09-05 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
I am also a complete newbie to Maproulette, but have had a go at a couple of shop=yes near me. Some are easy enough, but others are rather tricky to tag correctly (surprise, surprise!), so I'll have to do some more research, both on the ground and in OSMWiki, to try to find an in-use tag that is

Re: [Talk-GB] Fixing shop=yes, now it no longer renders on the default OSM map

2019-09-05 Thread Jez Nicholson
giving it a go as a Maproulette newbie too. I have shop=yes on a number of locations where I know that there is a shop open, but i need to survey in person to check what it is. In Maproulette, would that be "Not an issue"? or "Too hard, can't see"? (not expecting Robert to know, but someone else m

Re: [Talk-GB] Fixing shop=yes, now it no longer renders on the default OSM map

2019-09-05 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On Tue, 3 Sep 2019 at 12:40, Silent Spike wrote: > Perhaps a https://maproulette.org challenge would be a good way to track the > progress of this? I've never really used Maproulette before, but I thought this would be a good opportunity to have a go. So here's my attempt at a challenge, for any

Re: [Talk-GB] Fixing shop=yes, now it no longer renders on the default OSM map

2019-09-03 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
2 Sep 2019, 14:42 by robert.whittaker+...@gmail.com: > Any mappers with a few minutes to spare might like to have a look at > their local area, and see if there are any shop=yes objects they could > re-tag with a more specific value. Some resources to help: > > * Overpass Turbo query to find shop=

Re: [Talk-GB] Fixing shop=yes, now it no longer renders on the default OSM map

2019-09-03 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
2 Sep 2019, 15:30 by stu...@travelinesoutheast.org.uk: > I have found, variously (aside from those without a shop tag at all) > “houseware”, “household”, “doityourself”, “department_store”. > > I would suggest that “houseware” or “household” (is this a recognised tag?) > comes closest, or may

Re: [Talk-GB] Fixing shop=yes, now it no longer renders on the default OSM map

2019-09-03 Thread Jez Nicholson
Thanks Silent Spike. Keep up the good work. Of course, the very process of people tagging a shop type with the value that they think is correct, unprompted by the NSI, is/was the process of gaining consensus. I fear slightly that in our desire to use the 'right' value we lose that inputNot tha

Re: [Talk-GB] Fixing shop=yes, now it no longer renders on the default OSM map

2019-09-03 Thread Silent Spike
On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 2:21 PM Jez Nicholson wrote: > I don't know (yet) how iD generates its list of shop types. This may be > hard-coded and/or pre-generated from the NSI. > I can shed some light on this. The "type" field (drop down list) on the generic "shop" preset is generated from taginfo.

Re: [Talk-GB] Fixing shop=yes, now it no longer renders on the default OSM map

2019-09-02 Thread Stuart Reynolds
And this is the problem. One of the shop=yes entries in Southend on sea is The Range. I wasn’t sure how to tag it (I was using iD for speed, and it’s list of defined shop tags is fairly minimal) so I tried an overpass query on Name=The Range. I have found, variously (aside from those without a

Re: [Talk-GB] Fixing shop=yes, now it no longer renders on the default OSM map

2019-09-02 Thread Jez Nicholson
Whilst we are on the subject of shops (I hope this isn't dragging the discussion too far off topic) people may be interested how editors like iD and Vespucci get lists of UK shop names to suggest in drop-downs. The Name Suggestion Index contains json encoded descriptions of retail brands and can be

Re: [Talk-GB] Fixing shop=yes, now it no longer renders on the default OSM map

2019-09-02 Thread Jez Nicholson
Thanks for the heads up. I specifically use it when I know that a shop exists, and am due to survey it to say what it is. So I guess it doesn't hurt if those aren't rendered..but please, people in general, don't just delete them. On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 1:43 PM Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) < r

[Talk-GB] Fixing shop=yes, now it no longer renders on the default OSM map

2019-09-02 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
Since version 4.22 of the Carto map style (which was deployed a few days ago), the generic shop=yes tag is no longer rendered on the default OSM-Carto map at https://www.openstreetmap.org/ . For details of the decision see https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/3697 . In Great