Re: [Talk-GB] Pubs as areas: should be map the property or the building?

2016-03-14 Thread Lester Caine
On 14/03/16 20:18, Neil Matthews wrote: > P.S. Which building is the pub? > https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/51.45246/-2.42691 http://developments.southglos.gov.uk/online-applications/files/6FA7555C98FA66267FE1EC868218327D/pdf/PK11_2312_LB-SITE_LOCATION_PLAN-4150384.pdf I would be looking

Re: [Talk-GB] Pubs as areas: should be map the property or the building?

2016-03-14 Thread Neil Matthews
I'd argue all approaches can be considered correct from the wiki: "Add a node at the centre of the pub and add amenity=pub to it. ... If the whole building is used for this feature and its footprint is present in OSM, you can apply the tags on the area if you prefer." Area obviously applies to

Re: [Talk-GB] Pubs as areas: should be map the property or the building?

2016-03-14 Thread Andy Townsend
On 11/03/2016 17:26, SK53 wrote: A quick query on IRC and Andy (SomeoneElse) also maps pubs this way True, but not with a zealous committment to it "absolutely being the best way". I'm open to persuasion. Part of the reason might be that I'm probably more likely to sit in the beer garden

Re: [Talk-GB] Pubs as areas: should be map the property or the building?

2016-03-14 Thread Lester Caine
On 14/03/16 15:08, Dave F wrote: >> * Where do we place tags associated with the pub premises which may >> apply also to other parts of the pub property (an obvious one >> would be opening_hours). > > I'm unsure how common that would be, but it could go on the boundary as > the garden

Re: [Talk-GB] Pubs as areas: should be map the property or the building?

2016-03-14 Thread Dave F
On 11/03/2016 17:26, SK53 wrote: Earlier today browsing Pascal Neis summary of changesets This is new to me. Is there a way find all changesets with my locale? The disadvantages, at least to my mind, are: * Non-intuitive. Certainly I have never thought of mapping pubs this way,

Re: [Talk-GB] Pubs as areas: should be map the property or the building?

2016-03-14 Thread John Aldridge
On 14-Mar-16 10:43, Stuart Reynolds wrote: The one pub that I plotted, I added when I was doing a couple of nearby schools and noticed that it was missing. I used exactly the same principle as for the schools - an outer “amenity=pub” polygon and an inner “building=pub” for the actual building.

Re: [Talk-GB] Pubs as areas: should be map the property or the building?

2016-03-14 Thread Dave F
+1 This corroborates what I said on the changeset & how I mapped it. Dave F. On 14/03/2016 10:43, Stuart Reynolds wrote: The one pub that I plotted, I added when I was doing a couple of nearby schools and noticed that it was missing. I used exactly the same principle as for the schools - an

Re: [Talk-GB] Pubs as areas: should be map the property or the building?

2016-03-14 Thread Colin Smale
Can I make a plea to keep away from using landuse polygons for this, as SK53 suggested in the original post? In town centres, pubs are often just a "shop" in a row of shops; they are therefore already in a landuse=retail polygon. Having to have an island of landuse=retail within the larger retail

Re: [Talk-GB] Pubs as areas: should be map the property or the building?

2016-03-14 Thread Stuart Reynolds
The one pub that I plotted, I added when I was doing a couple of nearby schools and noticed that it was missing. I used exactly the same principle as for the schools - an outer “amenity=pub” polygon and an inner “building=pub” for the actual building.

Re: [Talk-GB] Pubs as areas: should be map the property or the building?

2016-03-14 Thread Jez Nicholson
I normally plot and tag a pub building as an area. I've noticed a few points appearing for existing pubs. They may be coming from the new OSM online editing programs. On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 at 22:48, Neil Matthews wrote: > It's not my preferred style -- I prefer to draw the

Re: [Talk-GB] Pubs as areas: should be map the property or the building?

2016-03-11 Thread Neil Matthews
It's not my preferred style -- I prefer to draw the building and tag that. I'd expect to put the name and address on the building too! If I tag a large area, then there's a high likelihood that it'll adversely affect routing. Conversely tagging large areas makes the map look more complete.

Re: [Talk-GB] Pubs as areas: should be map the property or the building?

2016-03-11 Thread Lester Caine
On 11/03/16 17:26, SK53 wrote: > Obviously I prefer for supermarkets, places of worship and pubs that the > area mapped should be the building. However I can equally see that there > are certain issues which are otherwise intractable where mapping the > whole area offers some advantages. Having

[Talk-GB] Pubs as areas: should be map the property or the building?

2016-03-11 Thread SK53
Earlier today browsing Pascal Neis summary of changesets I noticed a comment about reverting a duplicate pub node, and glanced at the changeset . The pub had indeed been added again (and subsequently removed). However what caught my attention was