Re: [Talk-GB] RFC Mechanical edit: UK Shop Names

2014-11-12 Thread SomeoneElse
It looks like at least one node reverted as a result of the message below has been unreverted again: http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2359499624/history Maybe I missed the memo about this, but I'm not convinced that shop tags doing the hokey-cokey makes OSM data any more usable :-) Cheers,

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC Mechanical edit: UK Shop Names

2014-10-29 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 25 October 2014 10:44, Ian Caldwell wrote: > You say "we manually exclude bus stops (highway=bus_stop) " I would have > thought you should only be changing where there is a shop tag. If not your > "Cotswold -> Cotswold Outdoor" would change > http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/146053979. Some s

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC Mechanical edit: UK Shop Names

2014-10-26 Thread Dan S
Hi all, Coincidentally, I noticed this online project to maintain a list of canonical names. It's used for auto-suggest in iD, not for mechanical-edit: https://github.com/osmlab/name-suggestion-index I've checked the list against Matthijs' proposal, and I've proposed a few of his suggestions to g

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC Mechanical edit: UK Shop Names

2014-10-25 Thread Ian Caldwell
You say "we manually exclude bus stops (highway=bus_stop) " I would have thought you should only be changing where there is a shop tag. If not your "Cotswold -> Cotswold Outdoor" would change http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/146053979. Ian On 24 October 2014 20:39, Matthijs Melissen wrote: >

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC Mechanical edit: UK Shop Names

2014-10-24 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 24 October 2014 14:44, Matthijs Melissen wrote: > I am proposing to unify the names of chain shops within the UK. For > details, please see > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/Math1985/UK_Shop_Names. Thank you for all comments so far. Based on the comments, I made the follow

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC Mechanical edit: UK Shop Names

2014-10-24 Thread SK53
I'd also say the same about the Wilkinson->Wilko rebranding. Most store chains roll out re-brands over a number of months because they are expensive and creating and fitting new signage externally & internally involves a range of skills which may take time to assemble. At present I suspect we are

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC Mechanical edit: UK Shop Names

2014-10-24 Thread Will Phillips
I think the name tag should show what is written on the shop sign. Some of your suggested changes do this. For example, as far as I know Waterstones never has an apostrophe. However, some of the proposed changes look like doing the opposite: e.g. the signs do say "M&S Simply Food" not "Marks &

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC Mechanical edit: UK Shop Names

2014-10-24 Thread SK53
Dear Matthjis, Apparently you have chosen to change names of shops which have been surveyed in the field. Please do not assume that your armchair knowledge is somehow more valuable than someone who lives in the area and actually goes out and looks what it says on the front of the shops. I could h

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC Mechanical edit: UK Shop Names

2014-10-24 Thread SK53
Dear Matthijs, As Will has objected to these edits, I do too. I agree with him that it is far too premature to even consider doing this. AFAIK the Nottingham area is the only place in the UK, and one of the very few places in the world, where there has been a systematic approach to mapping shops

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC Mechanical edit: UK Shop Names

2014-10-24 Thread Andy Street
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 14:44:17 +0100 Matthijs Melissen wrote: > I am proposing to unify the names of chain shops within the UK. For > details, please see > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/Math1985/UK_Shop_Names. > > Please let me know if you have any comments. A few thoughts:

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC Mechanical edit: UK Shop Names

2014-10-24 Thread David Woolley
On 24/10/14 17:20, David Woolley wrote: Whilst I can't work out the branding concept difference between them, they are different brands. I think they tend not to include the Nisa when they are using the Loco brand. Nisa Local is for medium sized stores. Loco is for small ones. __

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC Mechanical edit: UK Shop Names

2014-10-24 Thread David Woolley
On 24/10/14 14:44, Matthijs Melissen wrote: please see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/Math1985/UK_Shop_Names. Please let me know if you have any comments. If there are no further comments, I will invite list members to vote on this automatic edit. I will not proceed without

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC Mechanical edit: UK Shop Names

2014-10-24 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2014-10-24 15:35, Steve Doerr wrote: On 24/10/2014 15:13, Dan S wrote: "Co-operative" - not clear to me why you choose to drop "The" from this one, since it's included in the branding? You choose to keep it for "The Co-operative Food". +1: see http://www.co-operative.coop/about-us/ Also

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC Mechanical edit: UK Shop Names

2014-10-24 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 24 October 2014 15:24, Tom Hughes wrote: > Note that by "propose" what Matthijs means is "have already started doing" > if the number of "Correct tagging of XXX shops" changesets by him in the > last 24 hours are anything to do by: > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Math1985/history Hi Tom,

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC Mechanical edit: UK Shop Names

2014-10-24 Thread Steve Doerr
On 24/10/2014 15:13, Dan S wrote: "Co-operative" - not clear to me why you choose to drop "The" from this one, since it's included in the branding? You choose to keep it for "The Co-operative Food". +1: see http://www.co-operative.coop/about-us/ -- Steve --- This email is free from viruses

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC Mechanical edit: UK Shop Names

2014-10-24 Thread Tom Hughes
On 24/10/14 14:44, Matthijs Melissen wrote: I am proposing to unify the names of chain shops within the UK. For details, please see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/Math1985/UK_Shop_Names. Please let me know if you have any comments. If there are no further comments, I will

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC Mechanical edit: UK Shop Names

2014-10-24 Thread Dan S
Hi, "Majestic" - if you remove "wine warehouse", is it always clear from the other tagging which brand is meant? I imagine there may be other shops somewhere that could be named Majestic. Also, from a quick look at http://www.majestic.co.uk/ would it not be better to label it "Majestic Wine"? (The

[Talk-GB] RFC Mechanical edit: UK Shop Names

2014-10-24 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Dear all, I am proposing to unify the names of chain shops within the UK. For details, please see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/Math1985/UK_Shop_Names. Please let me know if you have any comments. If there are no further comments, I will invite list members to vote on this