Re: [Talk-GB] Should a place be tagged with a node or area?

2017-02-10 Thread Colin Smale
On 2017-02-10 18:42, Richard Mann wrote: > I'd stick to tags on the relations, and not super relations. Relations are > not categories. Relations are for things that are in spatial *relationship* > to one another, not just a collection. In this case there is a relationship. If I am

Re: [Talk-GB] Should a place be tagged with a node or area?

2017-02-10 Thread Richard Mann
I'd stick to tags on the relations, and not super relations. Relations are not categories. Relations are for things that are in spatial *relationship* to one another, not just a collection. Richard On 10 Feb 2017 13:37, "SK53" wrote: > I'm really not sure that we should be

Re: [Talk-GB] Should a place be tagged with a node or area?

2017-02-10 Thread SK53
I'm really not sure that we should be trying to map these at all. If we do I think Colin's approach is best: a super-relation of other admin entities. Not easy to create in the online editors but easy enough in JOSM. There is very little on the ground to allow verification, and I suspect many

Re: [Talk-GB] Should a place be tagged with a node or area?

2017-02-10 Thread Colin Smale
Hi Brian, On 2017-02-10 12:36, Brian Prangle wrote: > H - that's one way I hadn't thought of. I was thinking of just adding a > tag to each boundary relation to indicate membership status along the lines > of west_midlands_combined_authority= constituent_member or >

Re: [Talk-GB] Should a place be tagged with a node or area?

2017-02-10 Thread Brian Prangle
H - that's one way I hadn't thought of. I was thinking of just adding a tag to each boundary relation to indicate membership status along the lines of west_midlands_combined_authority= constituent_member or non-constituent_member as appropriate. It should work just as well and won't fry my

Re: [Talk-GB] Should a place be tagged with a node or area?

2017-02-10 Thread Colin Smale
Brian, isn't the geographical jurisdiction of the WMCA just the sum of the areas of the (non-) constituent members? How about using a relation containing the member authorities, with different roles to indicate constituent and non-constituent status? This model will allow for non-consituent

Re: [Talk-GB] Should a place be tagged with a node or area?

2017-02-10 Thread Brian Prangle
Hi everyone I've just added a relation for the boundary of the new West Midlands Cominbined Authority (which is the same as the old ceremonial West Midlands County, which I've left intact as it's still used I believe where postal addresses still

[Talk-GB] Should a place be tagged with a node or area?

2017-02-10 Thread Adam Snape
Thanks Phil and Colin, Thanks for clarifying. That makes sense and confirms that I don't need to change my current place mapping. Kind regards, Adam ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] Should a place be tagged with a node or area?

2017-02-10 Thread Colin Smale
Hi Adam, The trouble with the UK is that places don't have clear boundaries... 1) on the administrative side there are Civil Parishes, but large parts of the country are "unparished" and some parishes contain multiple "settlements" 2) Royal Mail have completely different ideas, which are for

Re: [Talk-GB] Should a place be tagged with a node or area?

2017-02-10 Thread Philip Barnes
Hi Adam The place is put on the node. Normally only admim boundaries are mapped in OSM. Suburbs, localties etc do not tend to have defined boundaries so are generally only mapped as nodes. Phil (trigpoint) On Thu Feb 9 23:48:30 2017 GMT, Adam Snape wrote: > Thanks Phil, > > Our local place

[Talk-GB] Should a place be tagged with a node or area?

2017-02-09 Thread Adam Snape
Thanks Phil, Our local place mapping must be quite primitive, because few place boundaries are mapped. Do you mean that both the boundary and node should carry the place=tag? Where there isn't a clear boundary to the place, should the mapper estimate it? Glad to hear I've been putting the nodes

[Talk-GB] Should a place be tagged with a node or area?

2017-02-09 Thread Adam Snape
Hi, What is the current consensus about whether to use nodes or areas for places? I've always used nodes, but I have spotted a few mapped as areas. I can see the advantage of having an area, but often places don't have clear boundaries. Sometimes parish/ward boundaries do correspond with the edge