Re: [Talk-GB] UK war office maps of Africa digitised

2016-02-12 Thread Richard Symonds
yep, seems to be working now! I'll get cracking. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street,

Re: [Talk-GB] UK war office maps of Africa digitised

2016-02-12 Thread Tim Waters
Hi Richard, Are you still having issues? That map appears to be okay now, last rectified 3 days ago and was able to rectify it just now. I've a screenshot here: http://imgur.com/bOjMnWq http://warper.wmflabs.org/maps/261#Preview_tab Find me on IRC as chippy sometime if you are still encountering

Re: [Talk-GB] UK war office maps of Africa digitised

2016-02-09 Thread Richard Symonds
Tim, A lot of these maps won't rectify, even though I've completed all the control points. The one I've just come up with is http://warper.wmflabs.org/maps/261 - can someone try and preview it, or tell me what I'm doing wrong? Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company

Re: [Talk-GB] UK war office maps of Africa digitised

2016-02-09 Thread Jez Nicholson
I tinkered with the "Kilimanjaro to Tsavo Stn. U.R.. WOOS-8-3-1" map a fair bit. Started by using recognisable locations (features on lakes, etc.) but eventually settled on tagging the grid lines and using online conversion tools to give me the WGS-84. The ones with hills in look great in Google Ea

Re: [Talk-GB] UK war office maps of Africa digitised

2016-02-09 Thread Tim Waters
Hi folks, so after a fix was applied to the Wikimaps Warper the collection of 581 maps from Wikimedia Commons was re-imported and added to a mosaic (layer) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:War%20Office%20Archive%20%E2%80%93%20British%20East%20Africa The mosaic: http://warper.wmflabs.o

Re: [Talk-GB] UK war office maps of Africa digitised

2016-02-02 Thread Jez Nicholson
The export tab http://warper.wmflabs.org/maps/629#Export_tab includes a WMS link "for JOSM OpenStreetMap Editor" I haven't tried it yet as my company have firewalled the office with an https whitelist. On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 at 17:34 Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 1 February 2016 at 13:02, Tim Waters wr

Re: [Talk-GB] UK war office maps of Africa digitised

2016-02-01 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 1 February 2016 at 13:02, Tim Waters wrote: > Great stuff. I think a few hundred maps (if not all) from this collection > are already in the wikimaps warper. > However there was an issue with making a mosaic (stitched layer) for the > category, so this will be fixed soon. Once that's done, ho

Re: [Talk-GB] UK war office maps of Africa digitised

2016-02-01 Thread Tim Waters
On 1 February 2016 at 12:30, Jez Nicholson wrote: > I've copied my control points over to http://warper.wmflabs.org/maps/629 > Great stuff. I think a few hundred maps (if not all) from this collection are already in the wikimaps warper. However there was an issue with making a mosaic (stitched l

Re: [Talk-GB] UK war office maps of Africa digitised

2016-02-01 Thread Jez Nicholson
I've copied my control points over to http://warper.wmflabs.org/maps/629 On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 at 11:51 Grant Slater wrote: > On 31 January 2016 at 20:04, Richard Fairhurst > wrote: > > > > For individual sheets like this, I think Mapwarper (mapwarper.net) is > going > > to be your best bet. It's

Re: [Talk-GB] UK war office maps of Africa digitised

2016-02-01 Thread Grant Slater
On 31 January 2016 at 20:04, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > > For individual sheets like this, I think Mapwarper (mapwarper.net) is going > to be your best bet. It's not the sort of task that's well suited to the > techcentric skillset of OSM Operations (by which I mean Grant :) ) and I'd > be surpris

Re: [Talk-GB] UK war office maps of Africa digitised

2016-02-01 Thread Tim Waters
Hi folks, I'm the developer of mapwarper.net and the wikimaps (wikimedia) warper http://warper.wmflabs.org/ also. The wikimaps warper is part of the Wikimaps project https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wikimaps lead by Susanna Anas I'll explain some of the differences. Mapwarper.net is d

Re: [Talk-GB] UK war office maps of Africa digitised

2016-02-01 Thread Jez Nicholson
Here's my first go at the Kilamanjaro map http://mapwarper.net/maps/12352#Preview_Map_tab On Sun, 31 Jan 2016 at 20:43 SK53 wrote: > There is/was a mapwarper instance for wikimedia. I don't have the details > to hand, but perhaps Tim Waters will be able to tell us. > > I think the problem with o

Re: [Talk-GB] UK war office maps of Africa digitised

2016-01-31 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Andy Mabbett wrote: > David Woolley wrote: > > Are you really asking if anyone is prepared to fund the tile server, > > and donate time to any georeferencing needed? > I'm asking what the *potential* is for that, or any other necessary > steps, to be done. For individual sheets like this, I think

Re: [Talk-GB] UK war office maps of Africa digitised

2016-01-31 Thread SK53
There is/was a mapwarper instance for wikimedia. I don't have the details to hand, but perhaps Tim Waters will be able to tell us. I think the problem with older maps of Africa and Asia is that a lot more has changed than in Britain in the same period. The set of maps which BL has digitised which

Re: [Talk-GB] UK war office maps of Africa digitised

2016-01-31 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 31 January 2016 at 15:57, David Woolley wrote: > On 31/01/16 15:46, Andy Mabbett wrote: >> >> Can anyone help with my original question, which was: >> >>> What's the potential to get these crown-copyright-expired maps as an OSM >>> layer, for tracing? > They have. They have told you the answer

Re: [Talk-GB] UK war office maps of Africa digitised

2016-01-31 Thread David Woolley
On 31/01/16 15:46, Andy Mabbett wrote: Can anyone help with my original question, which was: What's the potential to get these crown-copyright-expired maps as an OSM layer, for tracing? They have. They have told you the answer depends on the copyright status. You've only asked about the p

Re: [Talk-GB] UK war office maps of Africa digitised

2016-01-31 Thread Andy Mabbett
Can anyone help with my original question, which was: > What's the potential to get these crown-copyright-expired maps as an OSM > layer, for tracing? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstre

Re: [Talk-GB] UK war office maps of Africa digitised

2016-01-31 Thread Lester Caine
On 31/01/16 11:39, Jez Nicholson wrote: > Actually, I take it back Andy, after pointing me at > https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/481194/c-notice-201401.pdf > I > agree that you are quite right. That was the one:) My links still had the www.ipo.gov.uk d

Re: [Talk-GB] UK war office maps of Africa digitised

2016-01-31 Thread Lester Caine
On 30/01/16 18:03, Jez Nicholson wrote: > Andy, I respectfully beg to differ. Crown copyright does expire after 50 > years but owners of scans claim 'sweat of the brow' grants them > copyright of the images made. Even the people at NPE Maps claim it > http://www.npemap.org.uk/tileLicence.html but t

Re: [Talk-GB] UK war office maps of Africa digitised

2016-01-31 Thread Jez Nicholson
Actually, I take it back Andy, after pointing me at https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/481194/c-notice-201401.pdf I agree that you are quite right. On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 at 19:02 David Woolley wrote: > On 30/01/16 18:03, Jez Nicholson wrote: > > Andy, I r

Re: [Talk-GB] UK war office maps of Africa digitised

2016-01-30 Thread David Woolley
On 30/01/16 18:03, Jez Nicholson wrote: Andy, I respectfully beg to differ. Crown copyright does expire after 50 years but owners of scans claim 'sweat of the brow' grants them copyright of the images made. Even the people at NPE Maps claim it http://www.npemap.org.uk/tileLicence.html but they re

Re: [Talk-GB] UK war office maps of Africa digitised

2016-01-30 Thread Richard Symonds
Jez, These are all OGL licenced and on Wikimedia Commons: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:War_Office_Archive_%E2%80%93_British_East_Africa They were uploaded by Nora McGregor, Digital Curator, British Library ( https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ndalyrose) so are fine to use, I b

Re: [Talk-GB] UK war office maps of Africa digitised

2016-01-30 Thread Jez Nicholson
Great news that they've been OGLd. I feel less depressed now :) Andy, I respectfully beg to differ. Crown copyright does expire after 50 years but owners of scans claim 'sweat of the brow' grants them copyright of the images made. Even the people at NPE Maps claim it http://www.npemap.org.uk/tileL

Re: [Talk-GB] UK war office maps of Africa digitised

2016-01-30 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 30 January 2016 at 13:36, Jez Nicholson wrote: > Your knowledge of copyright is probably better than mine, but unless the > British Library renounce their ownership of the scans or UK law changes > (which is possible) I would say none. :( As I said; they're Crown Copyright, whchc expires afte

Re: [Talk-GB] UK war office maps of Africa digitised

2016-01-30 Thread Jez Nicholson
Your knowledge of copyright is probably better than mine, but unless the British Library renounce their ownership of the scans or UK law changes (which is possible) I would say none. :( On Fri, 29 Jan 2016 at 23:50, Andy Mabbett wrote: > What's the potential to get these crown-copyright-expired m

[Talk-GB] UK war office maps of Africa digitised

2016-01-29 Thread Andy Mabbett
What's the potential to get these crown-copyright-expired maps as an OSM layer, for tracing? http://www.bl.uk/collection-guides/war-office-archive -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap