Re: [Talk-GB] addressing (was addr:place)

2014-10-27 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 26 Oct 2014 22:41:56 + Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote: Hello Chris, Addresses are allocated by Local Authorities, not Royal Mail. I use the I never said they were, although I concede it could read like that. However, some addresses do seem to get mutilated once Royal Mail get

Re: [Talk-GB] addressing (was addr:place)

2014-10-27 Thread Colin Smale
It seems that that the housenumber/name/street/postcode is probably non-controversial - but the town/locality is, because RM have a specific view on the world. Has anyone looked at the use cases here? I am guessing that the main use case is for navigation - you have to go somewhere and you

Re: [Talk-GB] addressing (was addr:place)

2014-10-27 Thread Andy Robinson
[mailto:a...@street.me.uk] Sent: 27 October 2014 01:04 To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] addressing (was addr:place) On Sun, 26 Oct 2014 22:41:56 + Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote: Addresses are allocated by Local Authorities, not Royal Mail. I use the address the LA

Re: [Talk-GB] addressing (was addr:place)

2014-10-27 Thread Lester Caine
On 27/10/14 01:04, Andy Street wrote: How can you determine the postal town from a survey? In my local area all addresses within a postcode district share the same post town. But bare in mind that some roads may well go there several postal towns. The Uxbridge Road in London comes to mind

Re: [Talk-GB] addressing (was addr:place)

2014-10-27 Thread Lester Caine
On 27/10/14 09:24, Andy Robinson wrote: Are the postal towns not the town that is represented by the first part of the postcode? So CW for Crewe for instance. My parents live in Swaffham in Norfolk but Royal Mail have them is Cambridgeshire with a PE (Peterborough) postcode. Not

Re: [Talk-GB] addressing (was addr:place)

2014-10-27 Thread David Woolley
On 27/10/14 01:04, Andy Street wrote: On Sun, 26 Oct 2014 22:41:56 + Chris Hillo...@raggedred.net wrote: Addresses are allocated by Local Authorities, not Royal Mail. I use the address the LA recognise, plus the postcode which, AFAIK, Royal Mail do issue. I was aware that LAs have a role

Re: [Talk-GB] addressing (was addr:place)

2014-10-27 Thread Tom Hughes
On 27/10/14 09:24, Andy Robinson wrote: Are the postal towns not the town that is represented by the first part of the postcode? So CW for Crewe for instance. My parents live in Swaffham in Norfolk but Royal Mail have them is Cambridgeshire with a PE (Peterborough) postcode. Not at all. My

Re: [Talk-GB] addressing (was addr:place)

2014-10-27 Thread David Woolley
On 27/10/14 10:38, Tom Hughes wrote: The entire postcode is split (by the space) into the outward postcode and inward postcode and the outward postcode combined with the leading digits from the inward give you a postal sector. There is an additional part of the post code, the delivery point

Re: [Talk-GB] addressing (was addr:place)

2014-10-27 Thread Steve Doerr
On 27/10/2014 09:24, Andy Robinson wrote: Are the postal towns not the town that is represented by the first part of the postcode? So CW for Crewe for instance. No: a postcode alpha prefix will typically cover several post towns. My parents live in Swaffham in Norfolk but Royal Mail have

Re: [Talk-GB] addressing (was addr:place)

2014-10-27 Thread Andy Robinson
: Steve Doerr [mailto:doerr.step...@gmail.com] Sent: 27 October 2014 13:27 To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] addressing (was addr:place) On 27/10/2014 09:24, Andy Robinson wrote: Are the postal towns not the town that is represented by the first part of the postcode? So CW

Re: [Talk-GB] addressing (was addr:place)

2014-10-26 Thread Andy Street
On Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:27:11 + Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote: We in OSM can do SO much better and we must not use the imaginary, spurious and wholly wrong concept of Royal Fail's postal town. Postal towns are not real and have no place in OSM. Okay, now I'm confused! I know what

Re: [Talk-GB] addressing (was addr:place)

2014-10-26 Thread Chris Hill
On 26/10/14 21:58, Andy Street wrote: On Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:27:11 + Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote: We in OSM can do SO much better and we must not use the imaginary, spurious and wholly wrong concept of Royal Fail's postal town. Postal towns are not real and have no place in OSM.

Re: [Talk-GB] addressing (was addr:place)

2014-10-26 Thread Lester Caine
On 26/10/14 21:58, Andy Street wrote: We in OSM can do SO much better and we must not use the imaginary, spurious and wholly wrong concept of Royal Fail's postal town. Postal towns are not real and have no place in OSM. Okay, now I'm confused! I know what Royal Mail considers my address to

Re: [Talk-GB] addressing (was addr:place)

2014-10-26 Thread Andy Street
On Sun, 26 Oct 2014 22:41:56 + Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote: Addresses are allocated by Local Authorities, not Royal Mail. I use the address the LA recognise, plus the postcode which, AFAIK, Royal Mail do issue. I was aware that LAs have a role in numbering and naming new streets

Re: [Talk-GB] addressing (was addr:place)

2014-10-26 Thread Andrew Black
In my local area all addresses within a postcode district share the same post town. .. Which is the norm. Wikipedia says : In a minority of cases a single number can cover two post towns - for example, the WN8 district includes Wigan and Skelmersdale post towns