Re: [Talk-GB] Service road with private locked gate and routing apps
A quick update to say I've surveyed the service road and it looks very much abandoned as covered in debris and overgrowth which I've marked accordingly https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/94215820 On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 at 13:44, Mat Attlee wrote: > I'll add a note accordingly to the road as it does appear to be disused > but with the redevelopment of Marian Court maybe it will be reopened. > > On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 at 13:15, Dave F via Talk-GB < > talk-gb@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > >> I wouldn't have mapped that as any kind of road at all. From aerial >> imagery the west end is blocked by a container & vegetation suggests it's >> not been used for years. >> >> On 16/11/2020 11:18, Mat Attlee wrote: >> >> There is a service road in Homerton that I noticed several different >> routing apps including Cycle Streets, Komoot and Citymapper were taking me >> down eg https://www.cyclestreets.net/journey/72171728/ >> >> Upon surveying this service road it is very much closed to the public >> with locked gates which I marked as thus >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/93935943 >> >> However these routing apps still use this service road. Have I missed >> something or does it take a while for the changes to propagate? >> >> ___ >> Talk-GB mailing >> listTalk-GB@openstreetmap.orghttps://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >> >> >> ___ >> Talk-GB mailing list >> Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >> > ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Service road with private locked gate and routing apps
I'll add a note accordingly to the road as it does appear to be disused but with the redevelopment of Marian Court maybe it will be reopened. On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 at 13:15, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: > I wouldn't have mapped that as any kind of road at all. From aerial > imagery the west end is blocked by a container & vegetation suggests it's > not been used for years. > > On 16/11/2020 11:18, Mat Attlee wrote: > > There is a service road in Homerton that I noticed several different > routing apps including Cycle Streets, Komoot and Citymapper were taking me > down eg https://www.cyclestreets.net/journey/72171728/ > > Upon surveying this service road it is very much closed to the public with > locked gates which I marked as thus > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/93935943 > > However these routing apps still use this service road. Have I missed > something or does it take a while for the changes to propagate? > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing > listTalk-GB@openstreetmap.orghttps://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Service road with private locked gate and routing apps
I wouldn't have mapped that as any kind of road at all. From aerial imagery the west end is blocked by a container & vegetation suggests it's not been used for years. On 16/11/2020 11:18, Mat Attlee wrote: There is a service road in Homerton that I noticed several different routing apps including Cycle Streets, Komoot and Citymapper were taking me down eg https://www.cyclestreets.net/journey/72171728/ Upon surveying this service road it is very much closed to the public with locked gates which I marked as thus https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/93935943 However these routing apps still use this service road. Have I missed something or does it take a while for the changes to propagate? ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Service road with private locked gate and routing apps
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Surface https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:tracktype that is useful tor highway=track and unpaved ones, but mostly duplicate of surface tag Nov 16, 2020, 12:40 by mattatt...@gmail.com: > Good point. I will also update the surface and quality of the service road as > it is visible through the gate and last I checked it was covered with debris, > are there any appropriate tags for that? > > On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 at 11:31, David Woolley <> for...@david-woolley.me.uk> > > wrote: > >> On 16/11/2020 11:18, Mat Attlee wrote: >> > Upon surveying this service road it is very much closed to the public >> > with locked gates which I marked as thus >> > >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/93935943 >> > >> > However these routing apps still use this service road. Have I missed >> > something or does it take a while for the changes to propagate? >> >> It takes time for routing engines to update. However, I would also have >> put access tags on the service road. >> >> ___ >> Talk-GB mailing list >> >> Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org >> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >> ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Service road with private locked gate and routing apps
Good point. I will also update the surface and quality of the service road as it is visible through the gate and last I checked it was covered with debris, are there any appropriate tags for that? On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 at 11:31, David Woolley wrote: > On 16/11/2020 11:18, Mat Attlee wrote: > > Upon surveying this service road it is very much closed to the public > > with locked gates which I marked as thus > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/93935943 > > > > However these routing apps still use this service road. Have I missed > > something or does it take a while for the changes to propagate? > > It takes time for routing engines to update. However, I would also have > put access tags on the service road. > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Service road with private locked gate and routing apps
On 16/11/2020 11:18, Mat Attlee wrote: Upon surveying this service road it is very much closed to the public with locked gates which I marked as thus https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/93935943 However these routing apps still use this service road. Have I missed something or does it take a while for the changes to propagate? It takes time for routing engines to update. However, I would also have put access tags on the service road. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Service road with private locked gate and routing apps
There is a service road in Homerton that I noticed several different routing apps including Cycle Streets, Komoot and Citymapper were taking me down eg https://www.cyclestreets.net/journey/72171728/ Upon surveying this service road it is very much closed to the public with locked gates which I marked as thus https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/93935943 However these routing apps still use this service road. Have I missed something or does it take a while for the changes to propagate? ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] High quality NLS imagery of buildings and HOUSENUMBERS (!) available in London (and Scotland). Create a tasking manger to add this?
Hi Mark, If there is absolute confidence in that, can it be added to the wiki page here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/National_Library_of_Scotland And can it be added to the default set of old maps in JOSM? If it is available for use, not point in keeping it a secret. --- https://hdyc.neis-one.org/?spiregrain spiregrain_...@ksglp.org.uk On Fri, 30 Oct 2020, at 6:47 PM, Mark Goodge wrote: > > > On 30/10/2020 18:37, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB wrote: > > > > > > > > Oct 30, 2020, 16:28 by talk-gb@openstreetmap.org: > > > > It has come to my attention that the "Town Plan" map from 1944-1967 > > in NLS is available freely. > > > > What are its licensing terms? > > > > "available freely" does not mean "compatible with OSM license" > > It's out of copyright, so there aren't any licensing issues in deriving > data from it. > > I would, though, be a little reluctant to use it as a basis for > wholesale numbering without any supporting local knowledge or survey. > House numbers can, and sometimes do, change, particularly when streets > are renamed or rebuilt. So you can't be 100% certain that a house number > in the 1950s is the same number it is now, even if the building is still > the same. > > Mark > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
