[Talk-GB] electric fences

2020-11-22 Thread Martin Wynne
There are several instances locally where a footpath across a field is 
crossed by an electric fence.


The farmer usually fits a length of rubber hosepipe over the wire so 
that walkers can safely step over the fence. Sometimes with the aid of a 
couple of concrete blocks.


How to map? Technically it is probably a form of stile. But the problem 
is that the location isn't fixed. Electric fences are moved about 
according to which area of the field the livestock are currently 
grazing. In a large field the position could change significantly.


But walkers with restricted mobility do need to know that there is one 
somewhere in the field. The position might be important if there is an 
alternative gate or other access which could be used.


Martin.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Footways bikes can go on

2020-11-22 Thread ndrw

JOSM preset is:

highway=path

bicycle=designated

foot=designated

segregated=no

I quite like it as it doesn't imply one use is preferred to another.


On 21/11/2020 10:28, Edward Bainton wrote:
Is there established tagging for a tarmac path that is ~1.5m wide, but 
designated foot and cycles shared?


Eg: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/871919974

There's highway=cycleway | cycleway=shared, but when you're on it it 
doesn't feel like one, and you can't go full speed. But maybe that's 
the best tag nonetheless?


Thanks.



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Re: [Talk-GB] Turn Restrictions at roundabouts

2020-11-22 Thread Andy Townsend
Following a lack of answers to questions at 
http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=5229644 (in 
lots of cases they've responded, but have not actually answered the 
question) with a DWG hat on I've sent them a message that they have to 
read before continuing to map at 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/4214 .


I'd like to know the source used for the comment "You sometimes have to 
ignore signage as they are signed with convenient numbers rather than 
the real ones"at https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/60806661 .


I suspect the "signage to be ignored" referred to there are the large 
blue signs telling drivers "if you want to go to the M6 south, go this 
way".  However, I'd expect the information on the 100m markers to be 
more useful.  Is anyone aware of a previous changeset based on those, or 
photos on e.g. Mapillary that might help?


Best Regards,

Andy



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[Talk-GB] weeklyOSM #539 2020-11-10-2020-11-16

2020-11-22 Thread weeklyteam
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 539,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of 
things happening in the openstreetmap world:

 https://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/13975/

Enjoy! 

Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log in 
to https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login with your OSM account. Read more about 
how to write a post here: 
http://www.weeklyosm.eu/this-news-should-be-in-weeklyosm 

weeklyOSM? 
who: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages 
where?: 
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/weeklyosm-is-currently-produced-in_56718#2/8.6/108.3
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Re: [Talk-GB] FWD: Revert the "Felixstowe to Nuneaton" relation

2020-11-22 Thread Andy Townsend

On 21/11/2020 15:56, ipswichmapper--- via Talk-GB wrote:



https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7521925

That is the relation I am talking about.

An edit made by user nplath seems to have made this relation into
a clone of the "Ipswich To Cambridge-Ely" relation. You can tell
this because the number of members went down from ~400 to ~150.


You can see the history of the relation at 
http://osm.mapki.com/history/relation.php?id=7521925 .


The changeset that you're talking about, 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/67930034 , claimed to be a 
revert, and a previous changeset that affected the line 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/67336351 was reverted in 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/67709664 .  Comments made on 
changesets by this user can be seen at 
http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=8350466 , but 
unfortunately they don't include all of the reverts and counter-reverts.


>  If somehow to members of this relation can be reverted to back when 
there were 400 members, then that would be good.


Given that the original change happened in March 2019, no-one's going to 
be able to "wave a magic wand" and restore this relation to back how it 
was then, since there will be ways that existed then that don't exist 
any more.  However the restore is done there will be quite a lot of 
"manually filling in gaps" needed.


Are you asking the list because you'd like to check that it is a good 
idea, because you'd like to do it yourself but don't know how, or simply 
don't have time to do it yourself and just wanted to make more people 
aware of the problem?  All of these perfectly valid reasons of course.


If I was going to do it I'd probably start by undoing the relation back 
to the changeset 67822240 version with "undo.pl" from the perl revert 
scripts, and then fill in the gaps manually by looking at 
http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/10rc (that's an overpass query of that 
relation on a date just after the last "valid" change).  However, there 
may be quite a few gaps to fill in, so it'd likely need someone with a 
bit of free time to do that part (which depending on the answer to the 
previous question, may or may not be you).


Best Regards,

Andy



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