Re: [Talk-GB] NCN 231 and NCN 235 Isle of Wight

2020-09-01 Thread Richard Fairhurst
[apologies for broken threading, Nabble is still down]

Jon Pennycook wrote:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2821036 and
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2821037 (claiming to be
> National Cycle Network Route 231 and 235) have been listed on
> OpenStreetMap for some time. They appear to mostly duplicate
> Regional Cycle Network route 67
> (https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2742) aka "Round The Island"
> or "Taste the Wight".

Around 10 years ago, most (but not all) regional routes were
renumbered to become National Routes. NCN numbers 231 and 235 were
assigned to the RR67/Round the Island route as part of this.

As part of the NCN review underway, the route has now been dropped
from the NCN entirely, due to high motor traffic levels on some
sections.

I'd suggest deleting these two NCN relations and keeping the RR67
relation, though with the expectation that the latter may need to be
retagged if/when the Regional Route number is lost.

Richard
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Re: [Talk-GB] NCN 231 and NCN 235 Isle of Wight

2020-09-01 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB
Iff it is not existing then it should be deleted.

It is easy to do it in JOSM (after one 
passes hurdle if doing anything in JOSM)


1 Sep 2020, 11:52 by jpennyc...@bcs.org.uk:

> Hello.
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2821036>  and > 
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2821037>  (claiming to be National 
> Cycle Network Route 231 and 235) have been listed on OpenStreetMap for some 
> time. They appear to mostly duplicate Regional Cycle Network route 67 (> 
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2742> ) aka "Round The Island" or 
> "Taste the Wight". 67 is shown on the SusTrans OS Map, but 231 and 235 are 
> not. 
> The only NCN signs I have ever seen on the Isle of Wight are for 22 and 23. I 
> can't find any original sources thst mention either 232 or 235 (they are 
> mentioned in passing in the Wikipedia article on the NCN). I suspect someone 
> worked out a proposed route that was never approved, but it got into OSM 
> anyway. 
>
>
> What should I/we do? E.g.
> * Mark 231 and 235 as "Proposed"?
> * Delete both relations? How can this be done easily? 
>
> Jon 
>
>
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[Talk-GB] NCN 231 and NCN 235 Isle of Wight

2020-09-01 Thread Jon Pennycook
Hello.

https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2821036 and
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2821037 (claiming to be National
Cycle Network Route 231 and 235) have been listed on OpenStreetMap for some
time. They appear to mostly duplicate Regional Cycle Network route 67 (
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2742) aka "Round The Island" or
"Taste the Wight". 67 is shown on the SusTrans OS Map, but 231 and 235 are
not.
The only NCN signs I have ever seen on the Isle of Wight are for 22 and 23.
I can't find any original sources thst mention either 232 or 235 (they are
mentioned in passing in the Wikipedia article on the NCN). I suspect
someone worked out a proposed route that was never approved, but it got
into OSM anyway.


What should I/we do? E.g.
* Mark 231 and 235 as "Proposed"?
* Delete both relations? How can this be done easily?

Jon
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