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> *From:* SK53
> *Sent:* 04 April 2019 16:17
> *To:* Andy Townsend
> *Cc:* talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-GB] Removal of redundant NaPTAN data
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and atcocode for stops that are new since the original import, e.g.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4942644320
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Ed
From: SK53
Sent: 04 April 2019 16:17
To: Andy Townsend
Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Removal of redundant NaPTAN data
Like Andy I can find
Like Andy I can find these useful, particularly as the ones on local PTE
websites are very difficult to interpret. However, they suffer from the
deficiencies of being a) unmaintained on OSM; b) not necessarily reflecting
multiple bus pass zones; c) being fairly crude hulls of bus stops in the
Stuart asked:
> What do you mean by “pay scale”? Are you meaning the definition of a stop as
> a fare stage, or as part of a zone?
The pay_scale_area ways were the PlusBus zones as they were in 2009 according
to
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NaPTAN/Import
e.g. this one for
On 04/04/2019 11:05, Philip Barnes wrote:
I believe they were the zones covered by plusbus tickets.
I believe (and Stuart will know far more about this than me!) they
predate the widescale adoption of PlusBus in the UK. Certainly when
PlusBus was introduced in Chesterfield it didn't match the
I believe they were the zones covered by plusbus tickets.
Although the Telford one is certainly unlikely as it has not been maintained
since the import and Telford has expanded beyond it.
Phil (trigpoint)
On Thursday, 4 April 2019, Stuart Reynolds wrote:
> What do you mean by “pay scale”? Are
On 04/04/2019 10:48, Stuart Reynolds wrote:
What do you mean by “pay scale”? Are you meaning the definition of a
stop as a fare stage, or as part of a zone?
Example:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/38387740
(that's one that I haven't deleted yet)
Best Regards,
Andy
When I come across them I always delete them.
To map them as polygons was nonsense.
A few years ago the person who added them confessed he couldn't remember
why he'd done it.
If there is a desire to to be added they should be on the bus stops,
similar to the fare_zones I recently added to
What do you mean by “pay scale”? Are you meaning the definition of a stop as a
fare stage, or as part of a zone?
If so, then this data needs to be deleted, forthwith, as it will never be
right. Outside of the regulated market that is London, different stops can be
fare stages for different
On 04/04/2019 09:38, Brian Prangle wrote:
Hi everyone
Back in the day of the original NapPTAN import we imported pay scale
areas - tagged as public_transport=pay_scale_area. I don't know why we
ever did this - there's no evidence on the ground and it's highly
unlikely that any OSM data
The Telford one certainly looks highly dubious cutting residential areas and
bus routes.
I agree these and public transport routes are best left to organisations such
as traveline. After all a bus route without timetable information is pretty
useless.
Phil (trigpoint)
On Thursday, 4 April
Brian,
Sounds like a good idea.
Nick
(Tallguy)
On Thu, 2019-04-04 at 09:38 +0100, Brian Prangle wrote:
> Hi everyone
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> Back in the day of the original NapPTAN import we imported pay scale
> areas - tagged as public_transport=pay_scale_area. I don't know why
> we ever did this - there's no
Hi everyone
Back in the day of the original NapPTAN import we imported pay scale areas
- tagged as public_transport=pay_scale_area. I don't know why we ever did
this - there's no evidence on the ground and it's highly unlikely that any
OSM data consumer makes use of them ( if indeed they are
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