Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of historic 'stink pipes'

[SK53]

I've always been intrigued by this
, and wonder if it falls into
this category.

I dont think I've mapped it, largely for want of a suitable tag.

Jerry

On Fri, 18 Dec 2020 at 11:49, Andy Townsend  wrote:

> On 18/12/2020 08:39, Edward Bainton wrote:
> > Morning all
> >
> > My local civic society is collecting the location of 'stink pipes',
> > Victorian sewer ventilation shafts in cast iron. Pics here:
> > https://twitter.com/TobyWoody/status/1339679166371926017/photo/1
> > 
> >
> > I've suggested they use OpenStreetMap and suggested a node with tag
> > historic=ventilation_shaft. Does that seem the right tag?
> >
> >
> That isn't a tag that anyone else has used -
> https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/11jU finds only the one that you've added
> recently.  Having said that, when I looked at "historic" usage in the UK
> I didn't see anything that looked a better option.
>
> When I looked at vent shaft mapping in the UK a while back I came up
> with this list:
>
>
> https://github.com/SomeoneElseOSM/SomeoneElse-style/blob/master/style.lua#L3875
>
> These are physically very different features (though sharing some of the
> same function) as your stink pipes.  If you're going to use
> "ventilation_shaft" I'd definitely also add
> "ventilation_shaft=stink_pipe" or similar to make it clear that you're
> talking about:
>
> https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3590/3390912112_b70a3fb156_z.jpg
>
> not:
>
> https://www.picturesofengland.com/img/L/1106616.jpg
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Andy
>
>
>
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Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of historic 'stink pipes'

[Andy Townsend]

On 18/12/2020 08:39, Edward Bainton wrote:

Morning all

My local civic society is collecting the location of 'stink pipes', 
Victorian sewer ventilation shafts in cast iron. Pics here: 
https://twitter.com/TobyWoody/status/1339679166371926017/photo/1 



I've suggested they use OpenStreetMap and suggested a node with tag 
historic=ventilation_shaft. Does that seem the right tag?



That isn't a tag that anyone else has used - 
https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/11jU finds only the one that you've added 
recently.  Having said that, when I looked at "historic" usage in the UK 
I didn't see anything that looked a better option.


When I looked at vent shaft mapping in the UK a while back I came up 
with this list:


https://github.com/SomeoneElseOSM/SomeoneElse-style/blob/master/style.lua#L3875

These are physically very different features (though sharing some of the 
same function) as your stink pipes.  If you're going to use 
"ventilation_shaft" I'd definitely also add 
"ventilation_shaft=stink_pipe" or similar to make it clear that you're 
talking about:


https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3590/3390912112_b70a3fb156_z.jpg

not:

https://www.picturesofengland.com/img/L/1106616.jpg

Best Regards,

Andy




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Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of historic 'stink pipes'

[Tony Shield]

I Use OpenStreetBrowser and select in the sidebar Culture and Religion 
-> Historic which seems to show everything Historic I've added.


https://openstreetbrowser.org/#historic/n7138777431=14/53.6461/-2.6441=historic

TonyS999 Tony Shield

On 18/12/2020 08:39, Edward Bainton wrote:

Morning all

My local civic society is collecting the location of 'stink pipes', 
Victorian sewer ventilation shafts in cast iron. Pics here: 
https://twitter.com/TobyWoody/status/1339679166371926017/photo/1


I've suggested they use OpenStreetMap and suggested a node with tag 
historic=ventilation_shaft. Does that seem the right tag?


Also do people know a rendering that will highligh all the "historic" 
features?


Thanks,

Edward

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Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of historic 'stink pipes'

[Gareth L]

There is also this map render 
http://gk.historic.place/historische_objekte/l/en/index.html which could be of 
interest.

Gareth

On 18 Dec 2020, at 08:41, Edward Bainton  wrote:


Morning all

My local civic society is collecting the location of 'stink pipes', Victorian 
sewer ventilation shafts in cast iron. Pics here: 
https://twitter.com/TobyWoody/status/1339679166371926017/photo/1

I've suggested they use OpenStreetMap and suggested a node with tag 
historic=ventilation_shaft. Does that seem the right tag?

Also do people know a rendering that will highligh all the "historic" features?

Thanks,

Edward
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Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of historic 'stink pipes'

[Jez Nicholson]

Nice one Ed. Great to get a local civic society interested too. Can't
comment on the tag, but you could also suggest to them: a) an Overpass
Turbo query they could use to generate a map, take a screenshot, and
display on their web site for free (with appropriate attribution), b) add
the photos to Wikimedia Commons and reference them from the OSM nodes.

>From my OpenPlaques work, I'd really love to see more civic and history
societies understanding how easy it is for them to create Open Data.

On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 8:41 AM Edward Bainton 
wrote:

> Morning all
>
> My local civic society is collecting the location of 'stink pipes',
> Victorian sewer ventilation shafts in cast iron. Pics here:
> https://twitter.com/TobyWoody/status/1339679166371926017/photo/1
>
> I've suggested they use OpenStreetMap and suggested a node with tag
> historic=ventilation_shaft. Does that seem the right tag?
>
> Also do people know a rendering that will highligh all the "historic"
> features?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Edward
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[Talk-GB] Tagging of historic 'stink pipes'

[Edward Bainton]

Morning all

My local civic society is collecting the location of 'stink pipes',
Victorian sewer ventilation shafts in cast iron. Pics here:
https://twitter.com/TobyWoody/status/1339679166371926017/photo/1

I've suggested they use OpenStreetMap and suggested a node with tag
historic=ventilation_shaft. Does that seem the right tag?

Also do people know a rendering that will highligh all the "historic"
features?

Thanks,

Edward
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