Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Fwd: Grit bin locations

2022-01-06 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 at 13:06, Ryan Underwood  wrote:

> I've surveyed some of the grit bin locations in my local area, and they appear
> to be accurate and up to date, with some only slightly off in terms of
> coordinates.

A couple of my local grit bins change from one side of the road to the
other every few years.

Originally this was because they were taken away every spring and
returned the following autumn; more recently they are left in situ all
year round, but no doubt occasionally replaced due to damage or age.

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Andy Mabbett
@pigsonthewing
http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

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[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Fwd: Grit bin locations

2022-01-06 Thread Ryan Underwood
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From: Ryan Underwood 
Date: Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Grit bin locations
To: Andy Robinson 


Thanks Andy. There's an ability with their system to export all the data
into a CSV.  I've surveyed some of the grit bin locations in my local area,
and they appear to be accurate and up to date, with some only slightly off
in terms of coordinates. I suspect this is the mapping that the gritting
teams use to go and fill up the bins each year.  For the moment, it will
probably be best to manually filter through to ensure they're in the
correct location and still present, but it would be a nice addition to get
them all added onto OSM at some point.

Cheers,
Ryan.



On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 9:41 AM Andy Robinson  wrote:

> Ryan, apologies on the wrong spelling of your name.
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> Andy
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> *From:* Andy Robinson 
> *Sent:* 06 January 2022 09:40
> *To:* 'Ryan Underwood' ;
> Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org
> *Subject:* RE: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Grit bin locations
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> Ray,
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> Back in 2009/10 OSMers, myself included, added route details for
> Birmingham’s gritting from information supplied by BCC and created routes
> in OSM. We also made the BBC news with our then gritting map as the council
> didn’t have their own.
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> https://www.mappa-mercia.org/2010/02/true-grit.html
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> Its very likely that Birmingham’s current gritting routes and bin
> locations are historically similar to those we worked with all those years
> ago. Ideally we would get an update from them so that we can verify/fix the
> OSM data.
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> We know from past experience that location data for objects within BCC’s
> data sets can be off, especially if it was collected by third parties.
> Therefore their locations of bins is a useful aid for locating them on the
> ground but unwise to consider an import per se even if the licence on the
> data turns out to be acceptable to OSM.
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> Cheers
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> Andy
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> *From:* Ryan Underwood 
> *Sent:* 05 January 2022 23:05
> *To:* Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org
> *Subject:* [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Grit bin locations
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> I found this handy map on Birmingham City Council's website which has all
> the gritting routes and grit bin locations. I wonder if there's a quicker
> way of porting the grit bin locations into the OSM without manually
> entering each and every one.
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> https://maps.birmingham.gov.uk/webapps/winter_maintenance/
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