Re: [Talk-in] OpenStreetMap workshops

2009-10-05 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tuesday 06 Oct 2009 8:04:33 am Schuyler Erle wrote: > * On 3-Oct-2009 at 11:08PM EDT, Kenneth Gonsalves said: > > it is a question of priorities - either work round the year doing > > stuff or wait for the 'messiah' (apologies to Schuyler and Mikel if > > you are reading this - this is not abou

Re: [Talk-in] OpenStreetMap workshops

2009-10-05 Thread Schuyler Erle
* On 3-Oct-2009 at 11:08PM EDT, Kenneth Gonsalves said: > > it is a question of priorities - either work round the year doing > stuff or wait for the 'messiah' (apologies to Schuyler and Mikel if > you are reading this - this is not about you, it is about our own > shortcomings). What shortcomin

Re: [Talk-in] OpenStreetMap workshops

2009-10-03 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Saturday 03 Oct 2009 11:25:01 pm Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote: > On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > > I am talking about > > sustainability - I have had decades of experience in dealing with this > > issue, > > and believe me, any movement not dependent on self generated fun

Re: [Talk-in] OpenStreetMap workshops

2009-10-03 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Saturday 03 Oct 2009 10:47:17 pm Harshad RJ wrote: > > and believe me, any movement not dependent on self generated funds lasts > > exactly as long as the funds last. > > I don't know either of you guys, so sorry for butting into the discussion. why would knowing either of us be relevant to the

Re: [Talk-in] OpenStreetMap workshops

2009-10-03 Thread Ajay Shah
> My goal in doing any of this is to expand the critical mass of mappers, > because the more we have, the greater their economic significance as a > collective, and thereby the easier it will get to raise internal funding. > You seem to indicate we have enough of a critical mass to be able to run >

Re: [Talk-in] OpenStreetMap workshops

2009-10-03 Thread Harshad RJ
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Saturday 03 Oct 2009 1:48:10 pm Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote: > > > I am sorry to say that my reaction to this totally negative. Why should > > > we be > > > dependent on foreign funds to conduct workshops? > > > > I'm not sure I understan

Re: [Talk-in] OpenStreetMap workshops

2009-10-03 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Saturday 03 Oct 2009 1:48:10 pm Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote: > > I am sorry to say that my reaction to this totally negative. Why should > > we be > > dependent on foreign funds to conduct workshops? > > I'm not sure I understand you, Kenneth. What does foreignness have to do > with it? > > NLnet's

Re: [Talk-in] OpenStreetMap workshops

2009-10-03 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > I am sorry to say that my reaction to this totally negative. Why should we > be > dependent on foreign funds to conduct workshops? I'm not sure I understand you, Kenneth. What does foreignness have to do with it? NLnet's charter says n

Re: [Talk-in] OpenStreetMap workshops

2009-10-03 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thursday 01 Oct 2009 5:15:53 pm Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote: > I just applied to NLnet (http://nlnet.nl/) for funding for a round of > OpenStreetMap workshops in Feb 2010, in the line of the Feb 2008 workshops. > We will hear back in four weeks on whether we're getting the grant. > > I've made a wi

[Talk-in] OpenStreetMap workshops

2009-10-01 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
Hello all, I just applied to NLnet (http://nlnet.nl/) for funding for a round of OpenStreetMap workshops in Feb 2010, in the line of the Feb 2008 workshops. We will hear back in four weeks on whether we're getting the grant. I've made a wiki page for updates (nothing there yet): http://wiki.opens