[OSM-ja] Talk-jaの、メールごとの容量制限について

2018-05-01 Per discussione Satoshi IIDA
いいだ@メーリングリスト管理者帽子です。 念の為のご連絡です。 このTalk-jaメーリングリストなのですが、1回の投稿につき、 40kbまでの容量制限がかかっています。 40kbは、テキストだけの容量とすると余裕があるように見えますが、 過去のメールの引用などを投稿に含めてしまうと、 わりとあっという間に40kbの制限を超えてしまいます。 いちおう、制限を超えたメールは管理者むけの待機キューに入るので、 適宜確認を行った上でTalk-jaに投稿させることはできるのですが、 どうしても、タイムリーに確認&投稿処理ができない場合があります。

[Talk-TW] 完整的圖徵清單?

2018-05-01 Per discussione 洪朝貴
Hi 大家好: 先前我有寫一篇用 OverPassAPI 查詢圖資: https://newtoypia.blogspot.tw/2015/05/overpass-api.html 當然一定要連結到圖徵清單: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Zh-hant:Map_Features 可是現在那一頁裡面剩很少的東西, 例如 highway=* 或 railway=* 都不在該頁。 但可以從這兩處找到: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway

Re: [Talk-it] ZTL 'designated'

2018-05-01 Per discussione Volker Schmidt
2018-05-01 22:37 GMT+02:00 Any File : > A proposito, noto che i portali sulla autostrada della Pedomontana, > sono marcati come barrier=tool_booth > ad esempio > https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4147321490 > > "barrier=toll_booth" è il tag preciso per caselli autostradali

Re: [Talk-it] ZTL 'designated'

2018-05-01 Per discussione Volker Schmidt
> Per questo indicherei access=designated e description=Zona a Traffico > Limitato > "access=designated" non è un valido tag in ogni caso. Aggiungere qualche "description" non cambia niente.

Re: [Talk-it] ZTL 'designated'

2018-05-01 Per discussione Any File
A proposito, noto che i portali sulla autostrada della Pedomontana, sono marcati come barrier=tool_booth ad esempio https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4147321490 Vi chiedo se sarebbe il caso di creare un tag specifico per casi del genere, utilizzabile, a mio avviso, anche per gli accessi

Re: [Talk-cz] Májový fun fact

2018-05-01 Per discussione Jan Martinec
Řešilo se to s nima pár let zpátky, když začínali, jestli by jako nechtěli ta data mít rovnou v OSM. Nakonec to snad spadlo na synchronizaci nebo tak něčem. Zdar, Honza Piškvor Martinec Dne út 1. 5. 2018 22:26 uživatel Jan Macura napsal: > > 2018-05-01 22:16 GMT+02:00

Re: [Talk-it] ZTL 'designated'

2018-05-01 Per discussione Any File
2018-04-30 11:04 GMT+02:00 Alessandro : > Ciao lista, > a Genova ci sono diverse zone ZTL i cui cartelli indicano "accesso > consentito agli autorizzati" o una frase del genere. Nel caso in questione, direi che in mancanza di meglio, access=private sia la cosa più utile e che

Re: [Talk-cz] Májový fun fact

2018-05-01 Per discussione Jan Macura
2018-05-01 22:16 GMT+02:00 Mikoláš Štrajt : > Záleží na zdroji dat. > > My lovci, respektive sběrači ;-) máme celkem slušný přehled zde - > https://na-ovoce.cz/map/# > A jak to, že ještě nikdo neudělal import do OSM? :-O ;-) H. ___

Re: [Talk-cz] Májový fun fact

2018-05-01 Per discussione Mikoláš Štrajt
Záleží na zdroji dat. My lovci, respektive sběrači ;-) máme celkem slušný přehled zde - https://na -ovoce.cz/map/# -- Severák -- Původní e-mail -- Od: Jan Macura Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic Datum: 1. 5. 2018 11:44:42

Re: [Talk-cz] FOto rozcestníků nejde nahrát

2018-05-01 Per discussione Marián Kyral
Prý nějaký problém php vs. databáze. Snad se to zítra povede zprovoznit. Marián Dne 1.5.2018 v 13:11 Marián Kyral napsal(a): > Ahoj, > taky mi to nefunguje. Napsal jsem Michalovi. Uvidíme, kdy se k tomu > dostane. > > Marián > > Dne 30.4.2018 v 21:40 Václav Kroupar napsal(a): >> Upload mi hlásí:

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

2018-05-01 Per discussione Jason Cunningham
I had a bit of an interest in tagging speed limits a few years back. It's way more complicated than it should be in the UK. Researching led me down a bit of a rabbit hole of legislation & case law. I made the following personal notes about UK limits and how to recognise them, which I think is

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Carte vectoriel des transports en commun

2018-05-01 Per discussione Nicolas Bétheuil
L'idée est uniquement la consultation. L'édition c'est plus complexe et il y a d'autres outils pour ça. Pourquoi faut-il se passer d'overpass ? Il y a un hébergement pour voir ce que ça donne ? Le mar. 1 mai 2018 17:27, Noémie Lehuby a écrit : > Hello, > > Très joli

Re: [OSRM-talk] How to force match service to return public transport routes only?

2018-05-01 Per discussione Patrick Agin
Understood. Thanks Daniel, Patrick 2018-05-01 11:23 GMT-04:00 Daniel Patterson : > Hi Patrick, > > Train ways are typically tagged directly with `train=`. Bus > routes are typically not tagged directly on a way itself (because busses > run on roads shared with other

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

2018-05-01 Per discussione Tobias Zwick
So then, in case the user answers in the app that there is no sign, the app could ask the user whether the street is lit. Only if it is not lit, it tags the street as nsl_single/nsl_dual. Would that solution be correct? On 01/05/2018 19:22, Philip Barnes wrote: > On Tue, 2018-05-01 at 18:42

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

2018-05-01 Per discussione Philip Barnes
On Tue, 2018-05-01 at 19:15 +0200, Colin Smale wrote: > In most European countries there are rules/conventions that the sign > only applies until the next junction, at which point the sign must be > repeated if required.  That is something I found really confusing the first time I drove in

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

2018-05-01 Per discussione Philip Barnes
On Tue, 2018-05-01 at 18:42 +0200, Tobias Zwick wrote: > Does the "there are no repeater signs" rule only apply for the > default > 30 mph limit (and the 20 mph zones)? Or in other words, if there is > an > explicit different limit posted, let's say 40 mph, does it have to be > repeated at each

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

2018-05-01 Per discussione Colin Smale
If it is marked as a 20mph Zone, the limit must be self-enforcing through chicanes, speed bumps and similar. Repeaters are neither needed nor permitted. If it is not a Zone, but simply a road with a 20mph limit, repeaters are required.

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

2018-05-01 Per discussione Philip Barnes
On Tue, 2018-05-01 at 17:34 +0100, Jonathan wrote: > Am I missing something? The 20 mph signs are the same as all speed > restrictions signs are they not? >   They have the word Zone on the sign https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/keuNX2tehPliEtm3Xt6CSg

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

2018-05-01 Per discussione Tobias Zwick
Does the "there are no repeater signs" rule only apply for the default 30 mph limit (and the 20 mph zones)? Or in other words, if there is an explicit different limit posted, let's say 40 mph, does it have to be repeated at each intersection and feed roads? Tobias On 01/05/2018 16:35, Philip

Re: [Talk-it] Via Lucis

2018-05-01 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
qualche tempo fa ho mappato una via crucis così: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5878648/ ha forse farei dei cambiamenti, tipo type=route route=worship religion=christian ecc. per la route (e dovrei mettere i way points in ordine). ref per il numero della singola stazione mi sembra

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

2018-05-01 Per discussione Jonathan
Am I missing something? The 20 mph signs are the same as all speed restrictions signs are they not? Jonathan http://bigfatfrog67.me From: Tobias Zwick Sent: 01 May 2018 10:45 To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas? This tag is

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

2018-05-01 Per discussione Philip Barnes
On Tue, 2018-05-01 at 16:09 +, Nick Whitelegg wrote: > > > > > > > EDIT: sorry, silly question. For some reason I overlooked that JOSM > works with OSM OAuth, so the answer to the general question "can a > non-web app authenticate with OSM" would appear to be yes. > > > StreetComplete

Re: [Talk-it] Via Lucis

2018-05-01 Per discussione Ivo Reano
2018-05-01 18:02 GMT+02:00 liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu < liste.gira...@posteo.eu>: > On 01/05/18 17:57, liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu wrote: > >> denomination=chatolic >> > denomination=*catholic* ___ Talk-it mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

2018-05-01 Per discussione Nick Whitelegg
EDIT: sorry, silly question. For some reason I overlooked that JOSM works with OSM OAuth, so the answer to the general question "can a non-web app authenticate with OSM" would appear to be yes. Nick From: Nick Whitelegg Sent:

Re: [Talk-it] Via Lucis

2018-05-01 Per discussione liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu
On 01/05/18 17:57, liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu wrote: tourism=artwork artwork_type=painting [0] name=VII artist_name=Montani (non i capisce molto la firma) start_date=2005 denomination=chatolic religion=christian description:it=Settima stazione Via Lucis Dimenticavo: support=wall

Re: [Talk-it] Via Lucis

2018-05-01 Per discussione liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu
On 01/05/18 15:01, demon.box wrote: ciao, mi ritrovo a mappare una Via Crucis in una versione però un po' "rivisitata" infatti si chiama "Via Lucis" ed è costituita da 14 pannelli come questo: numerati con i numeri

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

2018-05-01 Per discussione Nick Whitelegg
... this would be with a user's individual account by the way, not some generic anonymous account. Thanks, Nick From: Nick Whitelegg Sent: 01 May 2018 16:46:53 To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

2018-05-01 Per discussione Nick Whitelegg
I realise I'm going a bit OT here and this is more a dev topic, but while we're on this topic, I'm just wondering whether it possible to authenticate via OSM OAuth from an app directly? StreetComplete calls the login page of OSM by invoking the web browser. I'm guessing the answer might be

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

2018-05-01 Per discussione Philip Barnes
That should include Leicester. Phil (trigpoint) On 1 May 2018 16:29:15 BST, Philip Barnes wrote: > > >On 1 May 2018 16:17:40 BST, Rob Nickerson >wrote: >>>When the user answers *"Yes, no sign"* >> >>At that point the easiest option is for the

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

2018-05-01 Per discussione Philip Barnes
On 1 May 2018 16:17:40 BST, Rob Nickerson wrote: >>When the user answers *"Yes, no sign"* > >At that point the easiest option is for the app to simply stop. Add no >data to OSM. > >And yes, you may have to go back several roads before you see the >speed limit sign. No

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Carte vectoriel des transports en commun

2018-05-01 Per discussione Noémie Lehuby
Hello, Très joli ! Les différences de couleur permettent même de détecter des petites erreurs de mapping. Pour les bus, on a un projet en cours de carte interactive si ça te dit : https://github.com/Jungle-Bus/VapourTrail -- Noémie Lehuby Jungle Bus - http://junglebus.io Le 30/04/2018 à

Re: [OSRM-talk] How to force match service to return public transport routes only?

2018-05-01 Per discussione Daniel Patterson
Hi Patrick, Train ways are typically tagged directly with `train=`. Bus routes are typically not tagged directly on a way itself (because busses run on roads shared with other traffic), but rather, the way is a member of a bus route relation. daniel On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 8:05 AM, Patrick

[Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

2018-05-01 Per discussione Rob Nickerson
>When the user answers *"Yes, no sign"* At that point the easiest option is for the app to simply stop. Add no data to OSM. And yes, you may have to go back several roads before you see the speed limit sign. No all local authorities put up the repeater signs but that doesn't mean that the speed

Re: [OSRM-talk] How to force match service to return public transport routes only?

2018-05-01 Per discussione Patrick Agin
I understand but my question was (sorry if it was unclear), why is it different between train and bus? 2018-05-01 10:02 GMT-04:00 Michal Palenik : > On Tue, May 01, 2018 at 09:30:36AM -0400, Patrick Agin wrote: > > Thanks Michal and Daniel for your help, I defined my

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

2018-05-01 Per discussione Andy Townsend
On 01/05/2018 12:43, David Woolley wrote: On 01/05/18 12:23, David Woolley wrote: I don't know about your tool, but it is essential that every user has an explicit personal account with OSM, and that they are set up to receive emails if people add changeset comments, or post messages to their

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

2018-05-01 Per discussione Philip Barnes
On 1 May 2018 10:41:28 BST, Tobias Zwick wrote: >This is where I need your help. How should the dialog be changed (in >GB) >to not create any misunderstandings here? > Difficult without having seen the speed limit signs as you have entered the zone. My usual approach is

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

2018-05-01 Per discussione SK53
In fairness to Tobias: - StreetComplete is a well-used app (over 10k installs according to Google Play), representing 2% of all changesets last year. - It offers a way for people who don't want to engage with the full complexity of learning an editor (as represented by the person who

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

2018-05-01 Per discussione Tobias Zwick
Did you read my last paragraph? Could you respond also to that? On 01/05/2018 13:23, David Woolley wrote: > Two or three years ago, we had problem of lots of bogus "wrong speed > limit" notes being added by one particular app.  The general result ws > that no-one took any notice of the notes from

[Talk-it] Via Lucis

2018-05-01 Per discussione demon.box
ciao, mi ritrovo a mappare una Via Crucis in una versione però un po' "rivisitata" infatti si chiama "Via Lucis" ed è costituita da 14 pannelli come questo: numerati con i numeri romani e tutti fissati alle pareti

[Talk-dk] unsubscribe

2018-05-01 Per discussione Jesper F
Fra: talk-dk-requ...@openstreetmap.org Sendt: 1. maj 2018 14:01 Til: talk-dk@openstreetmap.org Emne: Sammendrag af Talk-dk, Vol 106, Udgave 1 Send meddelelser der skal distribueres til Talk-dk til:

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

2018-05-01 Per discussione David Woolley
On 01/05/18 12:23, David Woolley wrote: I don't know about your tool, but it is essential that every user has an explicit personal account with OSM, and that they are set up to receive emails if people add changeset comments, or post messages to their OSM account.  maps.me has a high incidence

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

2018-05-01 Per discussione Andy Townsend
On 01/05/2018 12:23, David Woolley wrote: I don't know about your tool, but it is essential that every user has an explicit personal account with OSM, and that they are set up to receive emails if people add changeset comments, or post messages to their OSM account.  maps.me has a high

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

2018-05-01 Per discussione David Woolley
Two or three years ago, we had problem of lots of bogus "wrong speed limit" notes being added by one particular app. The general result ws that no-one took any notice of the notes from that app. More recently, we have had problems from maps.me, although possibly not for speed limits. I

Re: [Talk-cz] FOto rozcestníků nejde nahrát

2018-05-01 Per discussione Marián Kyral
Ahoj, taky mi to nefunguje. Napsal jsem Michalovi. Uvidíme, kdy se k tomu dostane. Marián Dne 30.4.2018 v 21:40 Václav Kroupar napsal(a): > Upload mi hlásí: Chyba serveru! Fotografii se nepodařilo uložit na > server. Detail: No bbox provided. > Fňuk, po dlouhé době jsem něco vyfotil a nemůžu se

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

2018-05-01 Per discussione Tobias Zwick
This tag is not invented, it exists in other countries where slow zones exist as well. Also, there *is* something special about it, otherwise the sign would not be different from a normal maxspeed sign, wouldn't it? (And the wikipedia article wouldn't exist) The special thing about it, is that the

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

2018-05-01 Per discussione Tobias Zwick
Okay, I have the impression that the tenor of the answers I got so far is that a "maxspeed:type=GB:something" tagging would not be necessary because in practice in the UK, any 30mph limit on lit streets will be posted explicitly. Thus, the maxspeed should be specified explicitly (along with

[Talk-cz] Májový fun fact

2018-05-01 Per discussione Jan Macura
Chcete vzít svou lepší polovičku na 1. Máje pod rozkvetlou třešeň a nevíte, kde roste? Ve Vídni ji najdete snadno, v ČR moc ne... http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/yqL Pěkný máj H. ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

2018-05-01 Per discussione Richard Fairhurst
Philip Barnes wrote: > I wouldn't invent a type tag, it's maxspeed = 20 mph > because that's what the sign says. There is nothing special > about these areas. No, 20mph zones and roads with 20mph limits are different legal concepts and are signed differently. A 20mph zone must have physical

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

2018-05-01 Per discussione Philip Barnes
I wouldn't invent a type tag, it's maxspeed = 20 mph because that's what the sign says. There is nothing special about these areas. Phil (trigpoint)  On 1 May 2018 09:58:23 BST, Tobias Zwick wrote: >Regarding the 20mph zones >(see

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

2018-05-01 Per discussione Tobias Zwick
Regarding the 20mph zones (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/30_km/h_zone), analogous to other countries where they exist, they would be tagged as maxspeed:type=GB:zone20. On 30/04/2018 20:57, Philip Barnes wrote: > Whilst in theory there is an implicit 30mph when street lights are > present and

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

2018-05-01 Per discussione David Woolley
On 30/04/18 18:41, Tobias Zwick wrote: On tagging implicit speed limits in the United Kingdom, the wiki lists the following values [1] for "maxspeed:type": GB:nsl_single (=60 mph), GB:nsl_dual (=70 mph) and GB:motorway (=70 mph) Aren't we missing a couple of points here? These speed limits