Re: [talk-au] Putting streams into OSM

Hi, I also find streams useful to indicate the surrounding ground is downhill towards them. Being at the bottom of a valley it is also fairly obvious when you encounter one in person. They are often hard to map from aerial imagery as they may hidden by tree cover. This is one reason why

Re: [talk-au] OSM Wiki Cleanup Update: 6th Tagging Guidelines Page ready

Hi Dian, The AWTGS page referenced isn't much use. As a trail user it doesn't tell me if 1 is easy or hard. Searching for other references I found https://www.nationalparks.nsw.gov.au/safety/bushwalking-safety/australian-walking-track-grading-system

Re: [talk-au] Bicycle access tags in Victoria and other edits edits

Hi Tony, On 16/5/22 07:00, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Hi Kim Can I please clarify "using highway=cycleway should only be used where there are signs allowing"? That is how I've always used it in urban areas. Does this apply to just sidewalks (US sidewalk, UK pavement, AU footpath) or

Re: [talk-au] Bicycle access tags in Victoria and other edits edits

Responses below. On 15/5/22 13:56, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Hi Sebastian and list Today I did a number of edits relating to whether a lack of bicycle signage, on its own, is sufficient grounds to remove bicycle=yes/designated or cycleway. Most of my edits though relate to cases where

Re: [talk-au] Wiki Clean Up Progress Update

Hi Dian, Some questions and comments. Are all toll roads highway=motorway? All the ones I know in Victoria are. If so, we should add tollways to the description of highway=motorway "Construction and maintenance of paved roads in profoundly remote areas is both practical and

Re: [talk-au] "Don't split ways if there is no physical separation"

To add to the ambiguity of what physically separate means I'll highlight the roudabout joining Wonga Road and Oban Road: https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=19/-37.79463/145.24154 Here the separation between lanes is similar to a long thin speed hump - you can drive over it, but it is a

Re: [talk-au] Information source question - sorry kind of lengthy.

On 3/2/22 09:23, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 at 22:18, Kim Oldfield via Talk-au wrote: update a short section of road there with access=no. =no or =private, because work crews can still drive in there to do repairs? Either would be fine as far as I'm concerned. Both

Re: [talk-au] Path versus Footway

Hi, On 3/2/22 09:34, Phil Wyatt wrote: …. and then work on getting the def:syntax incorporated as defaults into the database somehow? That would be good, but I'm not sure how to do it. One place to start would be to mention on

Re: [talk-au] Information source question - sorry kind of lengthy.

What I'll often do is map what I can verify in person and is useful to others, even if it isn't complete. In this situation, the practical use to most others is that the road should no longer be routeable for through trips. If you know one end of the closure then update a short section of

Re: [talk-au] Path versus Footway

On 2/2/22 21:45, Phil Wyatt wrote: Is there somewhere to view those defaults for Tasmania? I assume its not usually editable by mappers? See https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2369652 Specifically the tag: def:highway=footway;access:bicycle = yes While it appears to be editable just

Re: [talk-au] Consistent addr:state format?

Hi, Is there any advantage to tagging addresses with the state when the state is already well defined in OSM and the state for a given address location can be obtained from existing map data? I'm not criticising Justin's work - improved consistency is good. I'm asking the open ended

Re: [talk-au] Importing 200 emergency markers?

On 26/11/21 9:09 pm, Andrew Davidson wrote: On 26/11/21 18:48, Kim Oldfield via Talk-au wrote: Hi, The markers were installed by the railway, and are maintained by the railway. They are pole numbers attached to each telegraph pole along the railway. So they are pole reference numbers

Re: [talk-au] Importing 200 emergency markers?

ed permission? Just to make it easier to find in the future if there are any concerns. *From:* Andrew Harvey *Sent:* Friday, 26 November 2021 13:46 *To:* Kim Oldfield *Cc:* OSM-Au *Subject:* Re: [talk-au] Importing 200 emergency markers? That sounds fine to me, this email consulting with the

Re: [talk-au] Importing 200 emergency markers?

permission? Just to make it easier to find in the future if there are any concerns. *From:*Andrew Harvey mailto:andrew.harv...@gmail.com>> *Sent:* Friday, 26 November 2021 13:46 *To:* Kim Oldfield mailto:o...@oldfield.wattle.id.au>> *Cc:* OSM-Au mailto:talk-au@o

[talk-au] Importing 200 emergency markers?

Hi, I have a list of 200 emergency marker locations along 22km of the Puffing Billy Railway which were provided to me by the railway with permission to include them in OSM. I've been reading through https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import - most of which appears to be geared toward

Re: [talk-au] Service road highway areas as frontage road access

I've updated the intersection to a similar layout to that suggested by Thorsten. I have a passing familiarity with the area. It looks like Ewan has just suggested a similar layout. While making that edit I noticed Burwood Highway is tagged with foot=yes. My first response was that's wrong as

Re: [talk-au] Mapping tree cover

On 8/10/21 2:17 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote: On Fri, 8 Oct 2021 at 09:22, EON4wd > wrote: Question, How can I identify this person so that I can contact them to be able to find out what they are thinking? If you're using the default iD editor, select a feature,

Re: [talk-au] Cycling on Victorian paths

Hi Adam, On 5/10/21 10:23 am, Adam Horan wrote: Hi Kim, highway = pedestrian is for pedestrianised roads/areas rather then footpaths/sidewalks/pavements for those I think the current tag is highway=footway. I only included highway=pedestrian as it is part of

Re: [talk-au] Cycling on Victorian paths

Hi Andrew and list, How do we go about formalising these decisions? Is there a vote process, or does someone take it upon themselves to document in the wiki any consensus we reach on this list? We should document in the wiki when to add bicycle= and foot= tags which duplicate the default

Re: [talk-au] Cycling on Victorian paths

On 3/10/21 9:13 am, Sebastian Azagra via Talk-au wrote: In my view, some of the data in OSM is incorrect as a footpath will some times have permission bicycle=yes which is incorrect. The majority of the time allowed access will have bicycle=unspecified (not defined)which I think is fine. The

Re: [talk-au] Shared driveways

The wiki suggests you should use the addr tags instead: addr:street=Jardine Road addr:housenumber=32 addr:unit=a/b/c or leave off for common driveway I have tried this in the past, but validation tools complained. I'm not sure if it is acceptable to set an address on a driveway. On 24/9/21

Re: [talk-au] Another Melbourne intersection for review

://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=-37.794368611389=145.24075834056=17=1146194895843889=photo <https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=-37.794368611389=145.24075834056=17=1146194895843889=photo> Regards, Kim On 21/9/21 6:54 pm, Andrew Davidson wrote: On 18/9/21 9:04 pm, Kim Oldfield via Talk-au wrote: Andrew, a

Re: [talk-au] Suspicious amount of removed bicycle tags

Hi, I'd agree with Tony here. Personally I simply tag a footpath with highway=footway. The implication (in Victoria) is that adult bicycles are not permitted. I don't see the benefit of explicitly tagging with foot=yes and bicycle=no. Tagging also ignores the subtly of who is allowed to ride

Re: [talk-au] Another Melbourne intersection for review

Hi, When should separate ways be drawn, and when should lane tags be used on a single way? In this intersection the asphalt is continuous between parallel lanes, but they are separated by long rubber strips with a cross section about 20cm wide and 10cm high - not something a router should

Re: [talk-au] Roads in Industrial Estates: Residential, Unclassified or Service?

In Firefox type in the address about:performance to see which Firefox tabs are using the most CPU ("Energy Impact") and memory. Closing the top tabs in this list can speed Firefox up. On 28/7/21 5:59 pm, Bob Cameron wrote: Task Manager (ctrl-alt-del and select) will show process/ram hogs.

Re: [talk-au] Tags for bike tail you are not allowed to ride on?

at 18:35, Kim Oldfield via Talk-au mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>> wrote: Hi, What is an appropriate set of tags for a bike path you aren't allowed to ride on? Specifically https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/25313938 <https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/25313938&g

Re: [talk-au] Mapping "off track" hiking routes

Will this cause copyright problems, particularly as many government agencies don't understand the benefits of open licenses? On 25/10/20 5:31 pm, Little Maps wrote: MAPPERS ARE ENCOURAGED TO PERUSE RESERVE MANAGEMENT PLANS ON THE WEB OR TO DISCUSS EDITS WITH AGENCY STAFF WHEN CONSIDERING

[talk-au] Tagging reserve of unknown size?

Hi, I've just added Normans Reserve based on a sign at the entrance . There is no indication as to what area Normans Reserve covers - so I added it as a node and not an area. I've tagged it as

Re: [talk-au] 1300 / 1800 phone number format

Wiki has been updated. On 14/12/19 3:38 pm, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 at 14:34, Kim Oldfield <mailto:o...@oldfield.wattle.id.au>> wrote: My suggested rewrite is: Thanks, Kim - that sounds much better! Please go ahead & make the chang

Re: [talk-au] 1300 / 1800 phone number format

On 14/12/19 2:03 pm, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Thanks for confirmation, fellas On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 at 12:03, Phil Wyatt > wrote: I think an Aus Wiki update would be a good thing. Done!

Re: [talk-au] Copying address from business website?

ce:website but don't proved the website in the website tag. Why not? PS: I see the website of the business as the virtual front and consider the information public as any sign etc on the actual shop. So Yes I do this also all the time. (Individual POIs, not mass import) Am 2019-07-22 15:47, schrieb Ki

Re: [talk-au] Map use without attribution

This looks like a serious attribution error. The attribution link is to Google maps. Clicking on "Terms of Use" in the bottom right corner of the map takes you to https://www.google.com/intl/en-US_US/help/terms_maps.html The map tiles are coming from tile.openstreetmap.org On 24/7/19 7:57

Re: [talk-au] Copying address from business website?

given is it's okay to source a few facts here and there like the address or contact number, but just don't start taking a whole database of venues and copy that database. On Mon, 22 Jul 2019 at 13:06, Kim Oldfield wrote: Is it acceptable to copy a street address (and other contact details) from

[talk-au] Copying address from business website?

Is it acceptable to copy a street address (and other contact details) from a business's webpage? For example in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/72452124 (what changed is easier to see at https://osmlab.github.io/osm-deep-history/#/way/705884944 ) I added the street address as listed

Re: [talk-au] Victorian Street names source?

. Regards, JohnB On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 1:00 AM Kim Oldfield <o...@oldfield.wattle.id.au <mailto:o...@oldfield.wattle.id.au>> wrote: Hi, Is there a government resource which can be for Victorian street names in OSM? I vaguely remember one being mentioned, b

[talk-au] Victorian Street names source?

Hi, Is there a government resource which can be for Victorian street names in OSM? I vaguely remember one being mentioned, but I can't find it now. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Victoria,_Australia#Street_data_sources suggests reading street signs, or using links which