Why do routers need a node on the street? Next you'll be wanting me to
put a node on the street outside every house so you can route to a
house. This is a problem that should be solved by the router, not in
the data.
Richard
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On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 10:46 PM, davespod osmli...@dellams.fastmail.fm wrote:
I have cancelled a trip to survey some lonely country lanes after someone else
remotely traced them.
A flying trip is only partway up the scale of desirability. What you
want is someone who really knows the area.
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Mike N. nice...@att.net wrote:
Hopefully Legal won't decide that it is unacceptable.
The law is generally on the side of the big battalions
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On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Steven Johnson sejohns...@gmail.com wrote:
+1 This is why I object to removing the TIGER tags in the US. Retaining the
source and lineage of data (or, as it turns out NOT retaining) sometimes has
real-world consequences.
If you remove the TIGER tags, they are
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote:
Similarly, maxspeed=30mph would be a useful tagging if you have spotted a
30mph
speed limit sign on the ground, or to flag explicitly the point at which some
different speed limit stops applying.
I agree: we probably need to
As far as I am concerned anyone is free to use the data I've put into
OSM, as long as they let me have access to a reasonable amount of
stuff in return. Share and share alike.
I'd rather they'd kept the data, and offered to allow some to be
available in exchange.
Richard
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at
I thought the critique was useful for those of us who rarely look at
low zooms, other than as a quick way to pan across a few
hundred/thousand miles. Yes they are a bit bland; wouldn't hurt to do
something about it (wouldn't spend much time on it, but worth a few
tweaks). Text overlaps are
Railways also can have separate service and infrastructure
relations. As indeed can roads (in places where roads can have
multiple refs)
Richard
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote:
On 05/10/2010 10:44, Werner Hoch wrote:
The change DaveF doesn't like is the
Well the good news is that OSM didn't have the old roads through the
reservoir. The bad news is that OSM doesn't have the new bridge over
the reservoir either. Easy enough to fix, if the people willing to
trace from aerial photos for the general good were allowed to use
them. How many people have
The Mapnik rendering is not perfect, and one of its imperfections is
its over-display of one-way arrows. That's a problem for the renderer
to fix, I'm afraid.
I think you always need ways, even if they are covered by an area, so
your approach strikes me as just fine.
Richard
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010
The early ones in the UK (in London) were known as countdown, and
that's kinda stuck as a generic name, but I've no idea if anyone's
used that as a tag.
Richard
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Jo winfi...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I didn't find a tag to use for synoptic displays indicating when
Bus stops should be nodes offset slightly from the way (not nodes on the way).
How relations are handled is partly a problem with the editors.
Potlatch 1.4 users (who can't readily order relation members, and who
find it a pain having an excess of relations on a way), tend to do
2-way relations,
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote:
Imported data is dead data - there's no one that feels responsible for it.
Imports can kill community and give newcomers the feeling that there's
nothing more to be done. Imports *can* help osm but they can also
I think there needs to be a category of route (and have suggested tcn)
for signposted loop touring routes, usually established within one
local authority area (eg the Round Berkshire Cycle Route
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/29509).
People tend to use lcn for this, but they are
At least one of the ones round here is the home/workshop of a roving
bike mechanic, so treat the data with care!
Richard
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Martin Lucas-Smith - CycleStreets
list-osm-talk...@cyclestreets.net wrote:
We've brokered a dataset of all 2,500-ish bike shops in the UK
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Dave Stubbs osm.l...@randomjunk.co.uk wrote:
In the world of validators, slippy maps, JOSM post mappaint, aerial
imagery and masses of POI/addresses it makes less sense, and is less
visually obvious. But I still like it :-)
I'd never heard of it before, but I
I think that walking routes are much more flexible than (say) cycling
routes, so there would be every prospect that umpteen different sets
of overlapping routes could be created by different people. So I'd
probably advise against putting them in the database unless they are
waymarked.
Richard
On
a name.
But I won't delete them if you want to put them in.
Richard
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk wrote:
On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 10:44:45 +0100
Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hello Richard,
probably advise against putting them
As long as the user is traceable, contactable and blockable (by
Nearmap), and that user is clearly reminded not to copy data off other
maps, then I'd let them get on with it.
Richard
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 11:20 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On 5 August 2010 08:02, Ian Dees
+1
Just after each SOTM, image of the week is a photo of the particpants.
Almost exclusively male.
Richard
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Adam Killian vi...@bonius.com wrote:
On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 15:57 +0200, Floris Looijesteijn wrote:
But the girl is worth image of the week anyhow...
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:15 AM, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote:
... 'junction=approach' ...
I _used_ it to suppress one way arrows.
I ended up using oneway:reverse=block, to positively identify
meaningful oneways.
Richard
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IMHO route_ref is just a placeholder until you make the stops members
of the route relations, so don't worry about it
Richard
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Hillsman, Edward hills...@cutr.usf.edu wrote:
As I mentioned in an earlier post, we have two public transit systems
operating in the
I'd go for
fixme:name=OSSV has xyz
or (if you really think OSSV is superior)
fixme:name=was xyz but I've assumed OSSV is correct pending survey
Richard
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Ian Spencer ianmspen...@gmail.com wrote:
Tom Evans wrote on 14/07/2010 09:19:
As another suggestion:
I'm not sure an operator or a brand tag helps. Surely it's about
different names people call things.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/298272351
I'd advise using loc_name (The Randolph) or alt_name (Randolph Hotel)
if you ask for directions.
I'd probably prefer
name=Randolph Hotel
I've forgotten a lot of my maths, but isn't the vertical scale always
the same - and therefore different to the horizontal scale?
Richard
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 1:27 AM, Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote:
At 09.07.2010 01:19, Mostafa El-ashram wrote:
Please could you tell me how to
The scale bar doesn't change, just the numbers next to it. Looks fine to me.
Richard
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote:
On Fri, 9 Jul 2010 12:30:10 +0300, Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com
wrote:
2010/7/9 Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl:
On Fri, 09 Jul 2010
I could imagine some sort of duplicate/concatenate function that
created additional ways based on matching certain tag values (eg
highway=primary), and grouping based on a specified set of keys (eg
highway name), and simple end-on-end geometry. You'd then render
names (with repeats if required)
I've got situations where a side road name continues across a main
road, and it looks distinctly odd (must happen all the time in grid
layouts). I solved the problem by breaking the way at the main road.
If a renderer wants to be clever and put the sections back together,
they need to suppress the
Clear as mud. I think what you are saying is that it is a regional
route, and should therefore be an rcn, but that it will be
nationally distinctive number, so you could call it an ncn.
I'd probably call it an ncn, since the distinction between regional
and national routes is a bit arbitrary, and
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote:
Apologies for thread breakage - the otherwise excellent Nabble has fallen
over.
All white-on-red numbered routes are National Routes and should be tagged
with ncn_ref (or the relation equivalent). This includes
There probably needs to be two separate tags: one for little fenced
off areas that aren't anything else, and another for large areas that
are an overlay on other landuses. The existing tag is for small
single-purpose areas: you need another tag for the other type, not to
change the rendering of
to better data and maps...
Fortunately I have a thick hide.
If there's a decent argument for tag-to-higher for roads between
trunk-tertiary, other than we've always done it that way, let's hear
it. Preferably on the tagging list.
Richard Mann
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Andy Allan gravityst
=15layers=00B0FTF
Clearly the tagging is just perfect and the renderers are perfect and
the wiki is perfect, and it's all been wonderful for ever and nothing
needs to be improved [/rant]
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seems to be a complaint about how I
did it, rather than the substance of the matter.
Andy's made one of the few moderately serious points: it's confusing
to treat them differently to motorway links. Not exactly a clincher,
if it's wrong for other reasons.
Richard Mann
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Richard Mann
richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote:
What purpose do the _link tags serve other than rendering?
They can be used by routers to give more accurate descriptions
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote:
You need to explain, without referring to renderering *at any point in
the discussion* why your solution is both conceptually better than
what we have, and why your solution is worth all the hassle and
confusion that
I use path for unmade paths in the country (or indistinct ones across
parks), and footways for made up paths.
Richard
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net wrote:
At the risk of starting a pointlessly long thread...
Can anyone help me understand when to use
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Trevor Hook
trevor.k.h...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Richard Mann
richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote:
I use path for unmade paths in the country (or indistinct ones across
parks), and footways for made up paths.
Richard
There's a school of thought that would like to see cycle maps produced
in this way (the people in Cheltenham call it the Cheltenham
standard), using a 5-point scale (roughly: dead-quiet, ok if you can
manage a straight line, need to be able to deal with a few cars, need
to be able to look over
I've got a road that's Arnolds Way in OSM and on the street signs,
Arnold's Way in OSSV. How should it be tagged?
name=Arnolds Way
alt_name=Arnold's Way
?
Richard
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote:
At the risk of reopening the apostrophes war, my point is that
Differences on the naming of sections of trunk road (Southern Bypass
vs Southern Bypass Road) are also a little distracting.
Richard
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote:
Could the OS versus OSM name comparison be changed to strip apostrophes from
both names before
Sometimes there are obscure codes on bus stops (eg in Oxford), so that
humans can text them to a Real Time Passenger Info service (called
OxonTime here). Eg the ref tag on this node:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/533877725
For which you can get a departures list:
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Roger Slevin ro...@slevin.plus.com wrote:
And whilst Peter Stoner is correct that Oxford is unusual in having two
different next departure services (they do not supply their real time
information to the national service, so this is only available to the local
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote:
Whatever tagging is chosen needs to distinguish between
- A gate that prevents all access, and is normally closed;
- A gate that blocks traffic but not pedestrians, and is normally closed;
- A gate that is normally open.
Yes you can have an access tag on a node (and I've half a feeling I
saw it on the wiki; certainly I've seen it used). access= concisely
says what is required without inventing new tags (status/locked etc)
Richard
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote:
Richard Mann
If you've got reasonable non-copyright evidence that there's a PROW
across the field, use designation=public_footpath. If there's a path
that people seem to use, use the highway=path tag (or some other
highway tag if you prefer), and maybe a surface tag. You can have a
OSM way with just a
people start using OSM to
produce the definitive maps, but we're a little way off that.
Richard
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
ajrli...@googlemail.com wrote:
Richard Mann [mailto:richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com] wrote:
Sent: 13 May 2010 2:00 PM
To: Andy
On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Jens Müller b...@tessarakt.de wrote:
Am 03.05.2010 19:29, schrieb Richard Mann:
I think routers would be better served if we identify good through
routes (ie the equivalent of highway=primary for motorists), and
record them as relations,
I thought a router
Follow the street sign. This usually means Street, but not Saint.
I think St-as-in-Saint has become a distinct word (pronounced Sunt
not Saint, and with no full stop after the t) and looks peculiar
when expanded, whereas St-as-in-Street is only an abbreviation.
Richard
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at
I think routers would be better served if we identify good through
routes (ie the equivalent of highway=primary for motorists), and
record them as relations, perhaps
network=lcn+status=unofficial+signposted=no. But Andy's a strict
objectivist, which rather gets in the way of documenting this sort
Anyone know how to turn off the NPE background at lower zooms in Halcyon?
Richard
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Yes its a relic. Use highway=track+designation=byway instead
Richard
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:58 AM, André Riedel riedel.an...@gmail.com wrote:
What is the difference between a byway an a track?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway
An unmade path/track which usually allows
First Great Western have installed some seatback tv in one of their
HSTs. You can pay for the content, or you can watch the journey
progress on a map provided by Cloudmade and OSM contributors.
Richard
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On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 7:09 AM, Mark Williams
mark@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
Gregory wrote:
It only appears to go to Zoom 13 though - not quite big enough to read
the print, without getting out of my chair...
It goes all the way to z18, but just gives you a blank if you go
somewhere it's
Error-checking sounds like a great way of putting scary pop-ups on the
screen to frighten newbies. So you'd have to be very very careful how
clear they were. If in doubt leave them out. Leave these bugs to be
detected by keepright etc.
But there should be a way of editing names of existing
Chill guys. I still just about remember being a newbie, and I didn't
find Potlatch crap.
Not knowing what the + button did was crap. The endless
contradictory wiki is crap. It's a bit too easy to do something too
dramatic in Potlatch by inadvertantly using the wrong keyboard
shortcut (merging
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 5:36 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
...routers would lead pedestrians in areas where they are not allowed to
walk (cycleways).
Nonsense. There'll be a footway alongside that they can use (99.999%
of the time).
If you want to micro-map a footway as
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 5:27 AM, Adrian Moisey adr...@changeover.za.netwrote:
I've managed to get pieces of it to render on the cycle map:
http://osm.org/go/kaIGiwl?layers=00B0FTF'
Interestingly this appears as a GREEN cycle route, presumably because it's
tagged route=bicycle+network=mtb. I
2010/1/4 Lauri Kytömaa lkyto...@cc.hut.fi
The national officials here are allegedly constructing a
database for a online routing service for cycling and they have concluded
that the information can not be described with sufficient detail for
very accurate routing as tags on the roads.
Drawing separate ways for cycleways/footways alongside roads is nice and
simple. Doing it with tags on a single way is about 5 times more complex to
tag, but tolerable, and potentially a lot easier to render well. Doing it
with areas is maybe 100 times more complex to tag, and cannot replace the
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 4:27 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
If OCM isn't going to be open, then it shouldn't be in the main map.
Keep it on, for the same reasons that it got put on in the first place -
that it shows what you can do with elevation data OpenContourMap?), and
with neat
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
Perhaps we do need to fork the project and create openmap.org so we can
get away from a fundamental belief that 'the road rules'? But all I am
'shouting for' is that there are hooks to maintain a hierarchy of detail as
surmise it's non-trivial or they'd have done it.
Richard
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Richard Mann
richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote:
But I'd also like there to be an open, straight Mapnik (ie
4) And maybe I do some rendering myself...
Richard
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Hi,
Steve Bennett wrote:
My strategy:
1) I want to tag Y instead of X.
2) I tag Y, fallback:X
3) I get on with my life. Renderers will catch up whenever.
My
Keepright fusses if highways with different layers meet at junctions
(because it messes up rendering if the highways are drawn differently). So
where you've got a bridge very close to a junction you have to put in a
short way for the bridge and a very short way linking the bridge to the
junction.
bridge=yes is so that people can render nice parapets
I'd agree that layer tags should not be required for water/highway
crossings. Keepright should keepquiet!
Richard
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Jukka Rahkonen
jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fiwrote:
Pieren pieren3 at gmail.com writes:
I guess we have to decide whether culverts or fords are the more common (and
explicitly tag the less-common). I'd plump for culverts being significantly
more common myself, but that might not be true on a whole-world basis.
Richard
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org
+1 (on tagging vs drawing models)
I think it's a good rule of thumb that if it can't be rendered easily, then
you need to look again at your tagging model - your data isn't structured in
a way that is usable
Never tag for a renderer. Always tag for the renderers.
Richard
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 9:39 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote:
2009/12/3 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
I find the current practice of duplicating minor roads when there is a
median strip pretty unsatisfactory. Even disregarding the effort, the
end result never renders
I think the honest answer is that oneways tend to be treated as interesting
information that applies to cars. Ahem.
In the UK, we tend to make the oneway stretch very short with a cycle track
in the opposite direction, so they show up as two-way on most renderings,
but routers can't find a way
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Nick Whitelegg
nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote:
This would simply be highway=cycleway, I think the general assumption is
that pedestrians are permitted unless foot=no is added.
The crux of the matter is that this is not what the wiki says, and not what
at
I didn't resolve it because either the UK view or the German view (or some
other view) has to be the default. What we can't agree is which should be
the default.
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Richard Mann
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
Liz wrote:
we can have a cycleway
und einen Fahrradweg
Yep. And cycleway ~= Fahrradweg.
Steve
There are umpteen ways of resolving it. The problem is that we don't have a
process for agreeing which. I wouldn't go
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.comwrote:
Can I suggest we define some terms.
A Line is all the journeys made using a particular reference (4, X13,
Citi1 etc). Most people actually use the Route relation for this. This
should include all the ways that
Perhaps these mega-imports should be background data, equivalent to Yahoo
and NPE, for people to trace off if they've got a reasonable belief in their
current correctness, but not to be used raw? Then while people are tracing
their neighbourhood, they might put in some of the details that aren't
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.netwrote:
Ed Loach wrote:
Why do we have to try and get multiple logos rendered on Mapnik,
rather than anyone who wants to use different renderings in a
specific area rendering their own? They have access to the data
So maybe we should ask Starbucks before putting the word Starbucks on the
map? I say put it on, and take it off if they complain.
Richard
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 2:22 PM, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.comwrote:
On 10/11/2009 13:21, Peter Miller wrote:
On 10 Nov 2009, at 12:41, Ed Avis
is an infringement of
TfL's Intellectual Property and may lead to legal action and other remedies
permitted under the Trade Marks Act 1994 and the Copyright Design and
Patents Act 1988
On 10/11/2009 14:33, Richard Mann wrote:
So maybe we should ask Starbucks before putting the word
The background to the Scottish situation is that 90% of the landmass of
Scotland is owned by about 100 people (I exaggerate), most of whom live in
England.
Richard
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Maybe call them the Berlin servers for forwards compatibility?
Richard
2009/10/16 Dirk-Lüder Kreie osm-l...@deelkar.net
Frederik Ramm schrieb:
While we do casually refer to these new servers as the German dev
server and the German tile server, they are open to all members of the
Three ways, middle one is highway=residential+footway=no, explicit links
between the ways where there is a connection (highway=steps). I don't think
footway=yes|no is properly documented, but it is referred to in a few
places, and I haven't come across an alternative tagging for it.
Richard
On
The regional development agencies have quite big budgets, actually. But I'd
agree that England needs to have it's own level.
Richard
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote:
Igor Brejc igor.brejc at gmail.com writes:
For days now I've been trying to figure out how I
Picking up Ray's point that observing the back of the giveway sign is a
rather indirect way of saying follow the road round to the right, the
simplest/clearest is probably a relation on the through route linking the
ways before/after the junction, saying this is the priority route through
the
You could record it as a type of turn-restriction relation, but I have a
prejudice against those, having copied them down a bus route for quite a way
until I realised I'd picked up a stray. That (of course) may be a problem
with the editor I'm using, but keeping it simple is always a good maxim.
The other hurdle is learning how to render. If this one was a bit easier,
more people would do their own. That will come - but it's slow going
(especially for non-geeks).
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A quick look at oepnvkarte indicates we have all of Virgin's operating
routes already. Maybe some of the traces aren't great, but I think some
tracing off NPE ought to fix that, surely?
While positional info is probably in the trains (though I don't remember it
ever being discussed in the context
If you want drivers, then their union is the association of locomotive
engineers and firemen (ASLEF)
Richard
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Nick Barnes n...@thebarnesfamily.euwrote:
John McKerrell wrote:
I've now emailed, no idea if they'll come back with anything, I think
it's a case of
UK railway term for the three letter code (eg EUS for Euston) is (wait for
it): tlc
(most railway locations also have a 5-digit stanox, a 4-digit national
location code (nlc), a tiploc and several more, but for stations, the tlc is
the nearest to a meaningful short code)
I'd suggest something
If we were just gathering data for routers, we would map every lane as a
separate way, with relations for moving between each pair of adjacent lanes.
If we were just gathering data for rendering a single-scale street map, we'd
add tags to a single way, and probably not bother with lane info.
I
I'm not entirely convinced Dave read my posting, because it wasn't a metric
(but no matter).
When I tidy up after my children, I just put the bits back in the box, I
don't try to undo every single move they made in reverse order. And it's a
lot easier if the pieces from different jigsaw puzzles
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 12:19 PM, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.comwrote:
I agree. I think it would be even more useful to be able to quarantine
particular users changesets for manual review so the could be let
through in the end - though there's all the problems of conflicting
changes
Now I haven't actually tried this, but for those (as they say) who are
watching in black and white (or feel more comfortable in the Microsoft
comfort zone), you could probably do much the same thing in a spreadsheet
(eg in Excel, put the CSV in one sheet, write some functions to parse the
data
Eagerness should be channelled, not suppressed.
Richard
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 12:34 AM, Jason Cunningham jamicu...@googlemail.com
wrote:
And I would be tempted to tag it
highway=footway
graffiti=yes
I am beginning to think cycleway gets added by eager cyclists far more
often than
The established intention is quite clear, and not unreasonable - so there's
no need for a working group.
Just document that grave_yard is for ones around churches, and cemetery for
separate ones, *and* redirect people to the other tag if they've got the
other situation. Having tried to clarify a
1) Would it make sense to seek permision from TfL to derive labelling
information from their website maps. It's such a rich source of info, it'd
be a pity not to try. They're a bit daft putting copyright on their spider
diagrams - if I were them, I'd want them to be copied.
2) I don't like the
is on the NR website if you know where to look - and have
permission to use it.
And the fact that it may not _yet_ render is - ahem - not relevant.
Richard
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.comwrote:
On 2 Sep 2009, at 16:27, Richard Mann wrote:
2) I don't
You could also assume byway and track (tracktype=grade1/grade2, at least)
are available for cyclists (neither would be likely to have bicycle access
specified).
Richard
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote:
Rahkonen Jukka wrote:
Cartinus wrote:
You'd
access=official is a proposal (and one that appears to be in abeyance)
It's basically trying to create another access= value to try to sort out
some of the mess with access=designated, but I fear it just adds further to
the confusion.
Richard
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Roy Wallace
We in Oxford still hope to get to rendering cycle lanes and tracks on one
side of the road only. Ideally in such a way that we can use the likes
of cycleway:left=track rather than marking separate cycle tracks. This is
because it will give the renderer much more control over the output.
The
I think the underlying problem with path is that it creates overlapping
definitions. Among data users there is a strong preference for tag
combinations to be hierarchical, and I think that preference is reasonable.
While having to deal with doctor and doctors is only a mild pain, trying
to deal
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