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Today's Topics:
1. Ervin's Mapping Advocates blog post (Eugene Alvin Villar)
2. recommended csv format (Rally de Leon)
3. Re: recommended csv format (Jim Morgan)
4. Re: recommended csv format (Wayne Manuel)
5. Re: recommended csv format (Ed Garcia)
6. Re: recommended csv format (Rally de Leon)
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Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 00:56:47 +0800
From: Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com>
To: OpenStreetMap Philippines <talk-ph@openstreetmap.org>
Subject: [talk-ph] Ervin's Mapping Advocates blog post
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Hi guys,
Ervin has posted a nice article on his blog where he interviewed volunteer
mappers who contribute to OSM, RoadGuide.ph, WaypointsDotPH, and Google Map
Maker:
http://www.s1expeditions.com/2013/09/100-philippinemappingadvocates.html
The OSM interviewees include myself, Maning, Ian, Ed, Rem, and Tutubi.
There's also Rally. :)
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Dear all,
Which is the more common / preferred format for csv
lat,long,name or long,lat,name? and why do you prefer one over the other?
(eg. less hassle, less clicks to import csv to common GIS softwares)
If I am to recommend to ordinary people a free conversion utility, which
one? (my 2 preferred utility have different csv format)
If i use "gpsbabel's" generic (Comma separated values) option (eg. kml to
csv conversion)---> gpsbabel -w -i kml -f filename.kml -o csv -F
filename.csv
csv will be in this order---> lat,long,name
If i use another easy-to-use/free/multi-platform "KMLCSV" (from
http://choonchernlim.com/kmlcsv/ )
kml to csv conversion will give you---> long,lat,name
KMLCSV is very easy to use and allows ordinary people to view the POI's on
built-in google maps for quick verification. easy to install, easy to
distribute, virtually idiot-proof.
GPSBabel is universal, has gui and command line, but has too many
option-buttons that can be confusing for ordinary user.
or is there a way gpsbabel can convert (kml to csv) or (osm to csv) in
long,lat,name csv format?
Thanks,
Rally
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Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 12:06:05 +0800
From: Jim Morgan <j...@datalude.com>
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Subject: Re: [talk-ph] recommended csv format
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On Thursday, 19 September, 2013 11:22 AM, Rally de Leon wrote:
> lat,long,name or long,lat,name? and why do you prefer one over the
> other? (eg. less hassle, less clicks to import csv to common GIS
> softwares)
Just my opinion: when people talk about co-ordinates, they normally talk
about Lat and Long (almost never Long and Lat), so they should probably
be in that order! I'd say gpsbabel has it right, and your other software
is swimming against the tide.
The advantage of XML formats as opposed to CSV, is that they specify
that each point is either <lat></lat> or <long></long> so there is no
ambiguity.
Jim
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Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 12:15:52 +0800
From: Wayne Manuel <wdman...@gmail.com>
To: Rally de Leon <rall...@gmail.com>
Cc: OSM <talk-ph@openstreetmap.org>
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] recommended csv format
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Personally, I prefer lat-long. Easier to tell people that it should be
alphabetical. And that at least in the PHL, the smaller number comes before
the bigger number.
Also, when copying latitude longitude from Google Maps urls (the ll
parameter), it's lat long.
When you want to quickly check where your lat longs are, you can just paste
it into the Google Maps search box as lat,long
Wayne Manuel
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Rally de Leon <rall...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> Which is the more common / preferred format for csv
> lat,long,name or long,lat,name? and why do you prefer one over the other?
> (eg. less hassle, less clicks to import csv to common GIS softwares)
>
> If I am to recommend to ordinary people a free conversion utility, which
> one? (my 2 preferred utility have different csv format)
>
> If i use "gpsbabel's" generic (Comma separated values) option (eg. kml to
> csv conversion)---> gpsbabel -w -i kml -f filename.kml -o csv -F
> filename.csv
> csv will be in this order---> lat,long,name
>
> If i use another easy-to-use/free/multi-platform "KMLCSV" (from
> http://choonchernlim.com/kmlcsv/ )
> kml to csv conversion will give you---> long,lat,name
>
> KMLCSV is very easy to use and allows ordinary people to view the POI's on
> built-in google maps for quick verification. easy to install, easy to
> distribute, virtually idiot-proof.
>
> GPSBabel is universal, has gui and command line, but has too many
> option-buttons that can be confusing for ordinary user.
>
> or is there a way gpsbabel can convert (kml to csv) or (osm to csv) in
> long,lat,name csv format?
>
> Thanks,
> Rally
>
> _______________________________________________
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> talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
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Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 12:34:50 +0800
From: Ed Garcia <eppgar...@gmail.com>
To: Wayne Manuel <wdman...@gmail.com>
Cc: OSM <talk-ph@openstreetmap.org>
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] recommended csv format
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I also used lat-long ever since. My GPS devices displays them in that
order, downloads them in that order too. my android GPS apps (GPS
Essentials, One Touch Location, etc) displays them in that order too.
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Wayne Manuel <wdman...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Personally, I prefer lat-long. Easier to tell people that it should be
> alphabetical. And that at least in the PHL, the smaller number comes before
> the bigger number.
>
> Also, when copying latitude longitude from Google Maps urls (the ll
> parameter), it's lat long.
>
> When you want to quickly check where your lat longs are, you can just
> paste it into the Google Maps search box as lat,long
>
>
>
>
> Wayne Manuel
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Rally de Leon <rall...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Which is the more common / preferred format for csv
>> lat,long,name or long,lat,name? and why do you prefer one over the other?
>> (eg. less hassle, less clicks to import csv to common GIS softwares)
>>
>> If I am to recommend to ordinary people a free conversion utility, which
>> one? (my 2 preferred utility have different csv format)
>>
>> If i use "gpsbabel's" generic (Comma separated values) option (eg. kml to
>> csv conversion)---> gpsbabel -w -i kml -f filename.kml -o csv -F
>> filename.csv
>> csv will be in this order---> lat,long,name
>>
>> If i use another easy-to-use/free/multi-platform "KMLCSV" (from
>> http://choonchernlim.com/kmlcsv/ )
>> kml to csv conversion will give you---> long,lat,name
>>
>> KMLCSV is very easy to use and allows ordinary people to view the POI's
>> on built-in google maps for quick verification. easy to install, easy to
>> distribute, virtually idiot-proof.
>>
>> GPSBabel is universal, has gui and command line, but has too many
>> option-buttons that can be confusing for ordinary user.
>>
>> or is there a way gpsbabel can convert (kml to csv) or (osm to csv) in
>> long,lat,name csv format?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Rally
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> talk-ph mailing list
>> talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
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>>
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Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 13:16:03 +0800
From: Rally de Leon <rall...@gmail.com>
To: Ed Garcia <eppgar...@gmail.com>
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Thank you for your answers. It looks like the Lat-Long wins :-)
Yes, its more natural to read in lat-long order. I checked with some paper
records of the Bureau of Lands Location Monuments (BLLM), they too have
Latitude/Northings Longitude/Eastings columns. Googe Earth uses it.
Maybe the only reason why some technical people and gis programs use
long-lat format is don't want to reverse the order of x-y coordinate on
their data list. I'm dropping KMLCSV Converter from my preferred utilities
to recommend to lay people (too bad i love its simplicity, and can launch
Garmin POI loader from within - no big deal)
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Ed Garcia <eppgar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I also used lat-long ever since. My GPS devices displays them in that
> order, downloads them in that order too. my android GPS apps (GPS
> Essentials, One Touch Location, etc) displays them in that order too.
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Wayne Manuel <wdman...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Personally, I prefer lat-long. Easier to tell people that it should be
>> alphabetical. And that at least in the PHL, the smaller number comes before
>> the bigger number.
>>
>> Also, when copying latitude longitude from Google Maps urls (the ll
>> parameter), it's lat long.
>>
>> When you want to quickly check where your lat longs are, you can just
>> paste it into the Google Maps search box as lat,long
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Wayne Manuel
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Rally de Leon <rall...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> Which is the more common / preferred format for csv
>>> lat,long,name or long,lat,name? and why do you prefer one over the
>>> other? (eg. less hassle, less clicks to import csv to common GIS softwares)
>>>
>>> If I am to recommend to ordinary people a free conversion utility, which
>>> one? (my 2 preferred utility have different csv format)
>>>
>>> If i use "gpsbabel's" generic (Comma separated values) option (eg. kml
>>> to csv conversion)---> gpsbabel -w -i kml -f filename.kml -o csv -F
>>> filename.csv
>>> csv will be in this order---> lat,long,name
>>>
>>> If i use another easy-to-use/free/multi-platform "KMLCSV" (from
>>> http://choonchernlim.com/kmlcsv/ )
>>> kml to csv conversion will give you---> long,lat,name
>>>
>>> KMLCSV is very easy to use and allows ordinary people to view the POI's
>>> on built-in google maps for quick verification. easy to install, easy to
>>> distribute, virtually idiot-proof.
>>>
>>> GPSBabel is universal, has gui and command line, but has too many
>>> option-buttons that can be confusing for ordinary user.
>>>
>>> or is there a way gpsbabel can convert (kml to csv) or (osm to csv) in
>>> long,lat,name csv format?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Rally
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> talk-ph mailing list
>>> talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
>>>
>>>
>>
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