hi manning,

the inclusion of the health facilities here in davao is approximately 90% 
complete.  i mapped those facilities and still will include that in my future 
areas that i will visit.  im with the local government of davao and i did 
inform doh ro xi about the uses of gps but fell on deaf ears... and also with 
the local tourism office. 

sam




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From: maning sambale <emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com>
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Dear everyone,

I had a meeting with Department of Health (DOH) IMS division on the
possibility of collaborating with the OSM-PH community.  No clear
plans yet on the collaboration but I would like to put forward the
discussions in this list.

= Overview =
Basically, DOH intends to improve their database for the location of
health facilities in the country.  They will use the data on several
information management of the Department.  At the moment, they have
several database developed in various projects.
Each db uses a different system but one thing they lack is a uniform
geographic identifier.  An example of the db is available in the
Unified Health Management Information System portal [0].  This online
portal lists ~21,000 health facilities all over the country.

At the moment they were able to geocode ~4,000 locations [2] (~20%).

= What they need from OSM =

A couple of ideas that were discussed are:
- Verify the location of the 4,000 geocoded facilities in the
existing OSM data.  Right now, there isn't any clear evaluation on the
accuracy of the locations (a process of Q/A is now being developed).
Some facilities are actually in Sulu Sea!  Check out the southern part
of Negros island [2].
- Fill in the gaps. the IMS division have limited funds to
individually verify and take GPS readings of each facility.  OSM data
can possibly fill in the gaps.  Using the Overpass turbo [3], I was
able to check that we have ~1,100 amenity=hospital ways and nodes.
Note that some maybe duplicates and I have not included other health
facilities like barangay health centers (tagged as amenity=clinic
clinic=public [4]).
- Ask the community to map more health facilities.  The only
additional tag they want included is the Health Facility Code (an
alphanumeric code similar to NSCB's PSGC [5]).  This code will allow
them to link the OSM geometry into their health facility db.
- Train DOH staff to edit OSM.
- Build some easy to use tools to collect data in the field.

= Pending issues =
As with most government data, they are available only on a
non-commercial use.  Specifically, the DOH generated locations.  For
the other information in the online db, they are OK with public access
without restrictions. This will be in conflict with OSM's ODbL.  A
workaround discussed was to separate the DOH db with OSM's data
points.  No public db will be distributed that integrates both data
sources.  Is this in compliance with the ODbL?  If not, what are other
ways in which we can use OSM data in relation to DOH's plans.

Everything I've listed are open to discussions.  I included here two
people from DOH to keep them aware of the discussions. (@ Steeve and
Mark, please subscribe to our mailinglist [6] to keep track of the
discussions)

Regardless of what DOH intends to do, I encourage everyone to include
health facilities in your own list of things to map.

Thanks!

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[0] http://uhmis1.doh.gov.ph/UnifiedHMIS/
[1] http://uhmis1.doh.gov.ph/doh_facility/rfacilitieslist.php?cmd=resetall
[2] http://maps.doh.gov.ph/facilities.html
[3] http://overpass-turbo.eu/
[4] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2010-March/001872.html
[5] http://www.nscb.gov.ph/activestats/psgc/default.asp
[6] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph


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cheers,
maning
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