Re: [Talk-transit] bus route/relations done right

2009-11-17 Thread Peter Miller
On 17 Nov 2009, at 07:35, Ed Loach wrote: > David wrote: > >> To these I added the ways in no particular order, then >> the stops from origin to destination, and then the stops >> on the opposite side of the road going back the other way. >> Adding stops like this keeps them in order when display

Re: [Talk-transit] bus route/relations done right

2009-11-17 Thread Jozef Riha
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Peter Miller wrote: > > On 17 Nov 2009, at 07:35, Ed Loach wrote: > >> David wrote: >> >>> To these I added the ways in no particular order, then >>> the stops from origin to destination, and then the stops >>> on the opposite side of the road going back the other

Re: [Talk-transit] bus route/relations done right

2009-11-17 Thread Richard Mann
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Peter Miller wrote: > > Can I suggest we define some terms. > > A Line is all the journeys made using a particular reference (4, X13, > Citi1 etc). Most people actually use the Route relation for this. This > should include all the ways that are travelled on by th

Re: [Talk-transit] bus route/relations done right

2009-11-17 Thread Roland Olbricht
> Can I suggest we define some terms. > > A Line is all the journeys made using a particular reference (4, X13, > Citi1 etc). [...] > A Line Variant (also know as a Service Variant) is a unique stopping > pattern for a bunch of Journeys within a Line. (ie inbound, outbound, > inbound via the schoo

Re: [Talk-transit] bus route/relations done right

2009-11-17 Thread Peter Miller
On 17 Nov 2009, at 12:35, Richard Mann wrote: On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Peter Miller > wrote: Can I suggest we define some terms. A Line is all the journeys made using a particular reference (4, X13, Citi1 etc). Most people actually use the Route relation for this. This should include

Re: [Talk-transit] bus route/relations done right

2009-11-17 Thread Peter Miller
On 17 Nov 2009, at 12:57, Roland Olbricht wrote: >> Can I suggest we define some terms. >> >> A Line is all the journeys made using a particular reference (4, X13, >> Citi1 etc). > [...] >> A Line Variant (also know as a Service Variant) is a unique stopping >> pattern for a bunch of Journeys wit

[Talk-transit] Updating the NaPTAN bus stops in Birmingham

2009-11-17 Thread Christoph Böhme
Hi, I plan to do an update of the NaPTAN bus stops in Birmingham to bring them in line with the imports in the rest of the country. The update will make the following changes: 1. All naptan:unverified=yes tags are changed to naptan:verified=no. This will make maintenance of the colour schemes

Re: [Talk-transit] bus route/relations done right

2009-11-17 Thread Cartinus
On Tuesday 17 November 2009 08:35:24 Ed Loach wrote: > I think there have been > discussions on this list about the ways, and one suggestion (IIRC) > was to add each direction of a route that goes back and forth as > separate relations and make a single relation containing both (can't > remember wh