[Talk-transit] different interpretations of v2 PT scheme

2015-06-30 Thread Jo
When I look at how PT is mapped according to what they consider to be v2 of the public transport scheme, I notice a few problems. The first is that details about the stops is sometimes mapped on the stop_position node, sometimes on the platform, which can be a way or a node. As far as I'm concern

Re: [Talk-transit] Buses in Brighton, UK

2015-06-30 Thread Stephen Dawkins
I did check a bunch of stops on my street, and the NaPTAN data for Brighton and Hove looks generally good, albeit slightly displaced in areas (and the curious case of a stop registered twice, once in the wrong admin area). Interestingly, I've found that the stops on the Brighton and Hove website[1

Re: [Talk-transit] Buses in Brighton, UK

2015-06-30 Thread Roger Slevin
Chris That is disappointing to hear. My role covers the south east and east Anglia regions and we would be happy to receive feedback in relation to NaPTAN data, and we would seek to persuade relevant colleagues in individual authorities to make any necessary corrections to NaPTAN where it is s

Re: [Talk-transit] Buses in Brighton, UK

2015-06-30 Thread Chris Hill
I offered my survey data to Hull CC and East Riding of Yorkshire council. Both were not interested. This was when I did my surveys, so some time ago. I guess they don't understand that crowd-sourcing can produce valuable data. They certainly both are highly resistant to releasing any data as ope

Re: [Talk-transit] Buses in Brighton, UK

2015-06-30 Thread Roger Slevin
I am surprised to hear that the current NaPTAN data (which is continually updated) has errors in it – and I wonder therefore if the problem may lie in the updating of NaPTAN data in OSM. The original upload of NaPTAN to OSM was done about five years ago – and therefore it would not be surprisin

Re: [Talk-transit] Buses in Brighton, UK

2015-06-30 Thread Chris Hill
I had the NaPTAN data imported for my local patch. The data is based on submissions from each local authority and I think the quality varies. I checked about a hundred stops and ended up surveying a couple of thousand bus stops because the quality was so poor. Locations were missing, in hopeless

Re: [Talk-transit] Buses in Brighton, UK

2015-06-30 Thread Stephen Dawkins
I did see that page, but there are a bunch of requests from 2010, that don't seem to be touched, and certainly nothing recently, so I was just going to do it myself. Regards Stephen On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Richard Mann < richard.mann.westoxf...@gmail.com> wrote: > When the people were

Re: [Talk-transit] Buses in Brighton, UK

2015-06-30 Thread Richard Mann
When the people were importing NaPTAN in the first place, they insisted that someone locally should request it (and take on the responsibility of sorting out conflicts). I guess no-one volunteered in Brighton. It's possible someone is still watching the relevant wiki page: http://wiki.openstreetma

[Talk-transit] Buses in Brighton, UK

2015-06-30 Thread Stephen Dawkins
Hi I was just starting to map the bus routes in Brighton, UK, when I noticed that it's missing a whole bunch of bus stops. Is the any objection to bulk importing either the NaPTAN data to fill in all the missing stops? Reading the mailing lists, it seems the NaPTAN data is not ideal, but surely i