Re: [Talk-transit] Defining service on railway=tram

2019-03-16 Thread Markus
Hi Jarek, I've now written a short proposal: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:usage%3Dirregular Please feel free to edit the wiki page directly. By the way, i found an example of an underground and of a light train diversion-only track. I'm still a bit unsure if these

Re: [Talk-transit] Defining service on railway=tram

2019-03-10 Thread Markus
On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 at 22:49, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: > > Were you thinking of also integrating light rail in this, or keeping it > limited to trams for now? I think it is sensible to not restrict it to trams. While i'm not aware of irregular light rail or underground tracks, i can well imagine

Re: [Talk-transit] Defining service on railway=tram

2019-03-10 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 at 17:28, Markus wrote: > I still find service=siding to be inappropriate for irregular tracks > and would prefer a new tag, such as usage=irregular. I am willing to > prepare a proposal for it as soon as i find some time. No worries, I agree a dedicated tag with proper

Re: [Talk-transit] Defining service on railway=tram

2019-03-10 Thread Markus
Hi Jarek, I still find service=siding to be inappropriate for irregular tracks and would prefer a new tag, such as usage=irregular. I am willing to prepare a proposal for it as soon as i find some time. Regards Markus ___ Talk-transit mailing list

Re: [Talk-transit] Defining service on railway=tram

2019-03-10 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 at 11:33, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: > In tram systems, some of the tracks might not be used regularly for > passenger service. Some might be garage or work area tracks, and > others might be used only for detours or emergency service. > ... > Please see >

Re: [Talk-transit] Defining service on railway=tram

2019-02-17 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 at 13:43, Stephen Sprunk wrote: > > The current four service values are based on physical characteristics of the > track that are easily observed on the ground and unlikely to change. > > This proposal seems to overload that with an indication of how the track is > used, and

Re: [Talk-transit] Defining service on railway=tram

2019-02-17 Thread Stephen Sprunk
The current four service values are based on physical characteristics of the track that are easily observed on the ground and unlikely to change.This proposal seems to overload that with an indication of how the track is used, and we already have a tag for that: usage. Granted, none of its

Re: [Talk-transit] Defining service on railway=tram

2019-02-17 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 at 10:55, Markus wrote: > detour seems a bit unsuitable for turn tracks or connections because afaik it > implies a longer route, but the tracks i have in mind are rather shortcuts. > Maybe deviation doesn't have this meaning? Right, I withdraw the detour suggestion.

Re: [Talk-transit] Defining service on railway=tram

2019-02-17 Thread Markus
On Sat, 16 Feb 2019, 20:20 Jarek Piórkowski I agree with you that "siding" is not a good description, but it > seemed the least-wrong one of the 4 railway values in use. "Spur" to > me sounds like something that branches off and ends (as illustrated > for railways). Meanwhile with service=siding

Re: [Talk-transit] Defining service on railway=tram

2019-02-16 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 at 11:39, Markus wrote: > > Hi Jarek, > > I'd welcome a tag for tram tracks that normally aren't used except for > diversions (in case of breakdowns, accidents, road/track works, events etc.) > or for drives to the depot. However, i'm unsure whether service=siding is a >

Re: [Talk-transit] Defining service on railway=tram

2019-02-16 Thread Markus
Hi Jarek, I'd welcome a tag for tram tracks that normally aren't used except for diversions (in case of breakdowns, accidents, road/track works, events etc.) or for drives to the depot. However, i'm unsure whether service=siding is a good fit for these tracks. I'm not an expert in trams/trains,

[Talk-transit] Defining service on railway=tram

2019-02-11 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
Hello, In tram systems, some of the tracks might not be used regularly for passenger service. Some might be garage or work area tracks, and others might be used only for detours or emergency service. The `service` key seems a natural match for tagging this, but its values specified for railways