Re: [Talk-transit] Uploading public transport data on OSM

2018-01-19 Thread Stephen Sprunk
n [mailto:thesw...@gmail.com] Sent: fredag 19. januar 2018 04.12 To: talk-transit@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] Uploading public transport data on OSM On 19/01/18 01:32, Stephen Sprunk wrote: Agreed; ref:gtfs just won't work, and ref:OPER probably would. I had always thought tha

Re: [Talk-transit] Uploading public transport data on OSM

2018-01-19 Thread Wiklund Johan
: talk-transit@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] Uploading public transport data on OSM On 19/01/18 01:32, Stephen Sprunk wrote: > Agreed; ref:gtfs just won't work, and ref:OPER probably would. > I had always thought that ref was the public facing reference that is used (ie:

Re: [Talk-transit] Uploading public transport data on OSM

2018-01-18 Thread Andrew Davidson
On 19/01/18 01:32, Stephen Sprunk wrote: Agreed; ref:gtfs just won't work, and ref:OPER probably would. I had always thought that ref was the public facing reference that is used (ie: what's on the bus stop sign) and in the GTFS scheme this is stop_code. The stop_id is supposed to be unique

Re: [Talk-transit] Uploading public transport data on OSM

2018-01-18 Thread Stephen Sprunk
Agreed; ref:gtfs just won't work, and ref:OPER probably would. I was originally thinking in terms of some gtfs:key tags for imported data, similar to tiger:key tags. Once you consider multiple objects could be merged, though, that would likewise need to change to gtfs:OPER:key. But do we need s

Re: [Talk-transit] Uploading public transport data on OSM

2018-01-16 Thread john whelan
s already exist. I'd love to see them. > > John > > > >> >> >> -- >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 21:35:54 +0100 >> From: Jo >> To: "Public transport/transit/shared taxi related topics" &

Re: [Talk-transit] Uploading public transport data on OSM

2018-01-16 Thread Johnparis
0 > From: Jo > To: "Public transport/transit/shared taxi related topics" > > Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] Uploading public transport data on OSM > Message-ID: > gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Is there

Re: [Talk-transit] Uploading public transport data on OSM

2018-01-16 Thread Jo
That is why I think it's important not to go with ref:gtfs, but use ref:operator1, ref:operator2. Where operator1 and operator2 are the names or short names for the different operators. In many cases you'll find that these refs are also what the public sees on the stops (if the operators decide to

Re: [Talk-transit] Uploading public transport data on OSM

2018-01-16 Thread Stephen Sprunk
AFAIK, the operator ID is only guaranteed to be unique within a single GTFS feed, but it's reasonably safe to assume they'll also be unique between feeds with overlapping geographical areas. It's probably not safe to assume that's transitive. Where operators don't cooperate and produce a single

Re: [Talk-transit] Uploading public transport data on OSM

2018-01-16 Thread Jo
Is there a common pattern to these GTFS IDs? Are they guaranteed to be unique across operators? Or is that not important and is it only important that they are stable between versions of GTFS files for a region? Adding a ref:gtfs tag would not be very hard to do, but I would prefer a scheme with

Re: [Talk-transit] Uploading public transport data on OSM

2018-01-16 Thread Stephen Sprunk
On 2018-01-16 08:30, Mike N wrote: On 1/16/2018 7:37 AM, Yash Ganthe wrote: What caught my attention is a project called Go Sync https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GO-Sync The description indicates that it is for syncing GTFS with OSM. But I am not sure what type of account is needed for that.

Re: [Talk-transit] Uploading public transport data on OSM

2018-01-16 Thread Mike N
On 1/16/2018 7:37 AM, Yash Ganthe wrote: What caught my attention is a project called Go Sync https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GO-Sync The description indicates that it is for syncing GTFS with OSM. But I am not sure what type of account is needed for that. From what I recall, Go-Sync onl

Re: [Talk-transit] Uploading public transport data on OSM

2018-01-16 Thread Yash Ganthe
What caught my attention is a project called Go Sync https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GO-Sync The description indicates that it is for syncing GTFS with OSM. But I am not sure what type of account is needed for that. Yes, the permissions from the agency will be obtained. On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 a

Re: [Talk-transit] Uploading public transport data on OSM

2018-01-16 Thread Jo
Hi, the very first question that comes to mind is: is it under a suitable license, or can you get explicit permission from the operator to contribute it to OpenStreetMap? The next issue is that there is no direct way to add GTFS to OSM. stops.txt can be converted to nodes for the stops, but the ot

[Talk-transit] Uploading public transport data on OSM

2018-01-16 Thread Yash Ganthe
Hi, If I have a GTFS data of my agency, can I upload it to OSM? Do I need to convert it to any other format before uploading? Do I need to create a special account in OSM to be able to upload the data? Will it start showing the public transport options on the map similar to Google Maps? Regards,