Re: [Talk-us] Blame me for JOSM yellowness

2009-04-24 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
and then what is this info good for? just because someone claims it's correct? is it correct then? more correct than data with the tag set to no? can you give a single example where this info is helping? the tiger data is terrible wrong in some places. it's more important to fix the data

Re: [Talk-us] Blame me for JOSM yellowness

2009-04-24 Thread Greg Troxel
and then what is this info good for? just because someone claims it's correct? is it correct then? more correct than data with the tag set to no? can you give a single example where this info is helping? the tiger data is terrible wrong in some places. it's more important to fix

Re: [Talk-us] Blame me for JOSM yellowness

2009-04-24 Thread Richard Weait
On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 23:01 -0700, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: On 23 Apr 2009, at 14:25 , Russ Nelson wrote: On Apr 22, 2009, at 11:02 AM, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: what is the benefit in doing this? There is no other method for somebody to say I looked at this and everything about it

Re: [Talk-us] Blame me for JOSM yellowness

2009-04-24 Thread Russ Nelson
On Apr 24, 2009, at 2:01 AM, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: the tiger data is terrible wrong in some places. And how do you know this? -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM -

Re: [Talk-us] Blame me for JOSM yellowness

2009-04-24 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
Perhaps there should just be a view option highlight unreviewed objects, and those that like this can turn it on and those that don't can not. if it's an option I wouldn't wast a second to write about the pro/con. why does anyone try to force users to do it? I have patched josm already

Re: [Talk-us] Blame me for JOSM yellowness

2009-04-24 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On 24 Apr 2009, at 7:14 , Russ Nelson wrote: On Apr 24, 2009, at 2:01 AM, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: the tiger data is terrible wrong in some places. And how do you know this? 1. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=37.379805lon=-122.166681zoom=18layers=B000FTF compare wit Yahoo, 2.

Re: [Talk-us] Blame me for JOSM yellowness

2009-04-24 Thread Paul Fox
apollinaris wrote: Perhaps there should just be a view option highlight unreviewed objects, and those that like this can turn it on and those that don't can not. if it's an option I wouldn't wast a second to write about the pro/con. why does anyone try to force users to do

Re: [Talk-us] Blame me for JOSM yellowness

2009-04-24 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
my java knowledge is 0. can't patch it to make it an option. all I can is to remove the whole style and rebuild. anyone is free to remove this tag and I have done it in the past too but since then I realized it's just useless. why waste time if there is so much to work on? and I consider it

Re: [Talk-us] Blame me for JOSM yellowness

2009-04-24 Thread Dave Hansen
On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 09:40 -0700, Alan Millar wrote: If you don't like the tag, you don't have to use it. But I have been waiting for this highlighting feature for a long time, but never got around to figuring out enough in JOSM, so I am happy to see it. To each his own; there is room for

Re: [Talk-us] Blame me for JOSM yellowness

2009-04-24 Thread Alan Millar
I'd also be very happy if JOSM flipped the tag for me when I edit a tiger object. It seems reasonable enough that if I'm editing something that we can consider it reviewed. I certainly don't want to have to go flip it manually every time I go fixing some minor road details. Good idea. (I

Re: [Talk-us] Blame me for JOSM yellowness

2009-04-24 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On 24 Apr 2009, at 9:40 , Alan Millar wrote: can you give a single example where this info is helping? It may not help you anywhere. It helps me everywhere, in my personal mapping process. good for you, osm is free and this a good thing that we can do things the way we like it. is that

[Talk-us] On the subject of TIGER

2009-04-24 Thread Theodore Book
Since we are speaking of TIGER, the quality of the data seems to vary according to county - some are consistently good, others consistently poor. Has anyone looked at the TIGER 2008 data to see if it is better? We have some counties in Georgia that have poor TIGER data in OSM, and very few

Re: [Talk-us] Americans going to the state of the map

2009-04-24 Thread Ian Dees
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Sarah Manley sa...@cloudmade.com wrote: Hello All, I am curious if anyone has signed up or has submitted a presentation to SOTM? I have been thinking about topics to submit, and thought maybe the SOTM of the US (including americanizing terms, TIGER data,

Re: [Talk-us] On the subject of TIGER

2009-04-24 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Dave Hansen d...@sr71.net wrote: On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 14:07 -0400, Rev. Theodore Book wrote: I just took a peak at the data, and noticed that it doesn't have any information on road category - how did you do that on the main import - simply by the name of the

Re: [Talk-us] Blame me for JOSM yellowness

2009-04-24 Thread Ian Dees
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Russ Nelson r...@cloudmade.com wrote: On Apr 24, 2009, at 12:59 PM, Dave Hansen wrote: On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 09:40 -0700, Alan Millar wrote: If you don't like the tag, you don't have to use it. But I have been waiting for this highlighting feature for a

Re: [Talk-us] Blame me for JOSM yellowness

2009-04-24 Thread Alex S.
Russ Nelson wrote: On Apr 24, 2009, at 12:59 PM, Dave Hansen wrote: I'd also be very happy if JOSM flipped the tag for me when I edit a tiger object. Does anybody object to this? If not, I'll look at inserting special case code which removes tiger:reviewed when the way or any node it

Re: [Talk-us] Blame me for JOSM yellowness

2009-04-24 Thread Bill Ricker
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com wrote: 2. http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=121u8tcs=5 this is a residential road imported from tiger. have fun to drive here that does need surface condition and access tags. Maybe a bollard/chicane too. but if it's a

Re: [Talk-us] Blame me for JOSM yellowness

2009-04-24 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On 24 Apr 2009, at 14:27 , Russ Nelson wrote: On Apr 24, 2009, at 1:26 PM, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: forcing every josm user to accept it is somewhere between ignorance and dictatorship Your argument, if true, is an argument against ANY change to JOSM. improvements are always welcome

Re: [Talk-us] Blame me for JOSM yellowness

2009-04-24 Thread Dale Puch
First I would like to say I think the highlighting is a good thing. As such I do not see why anyone is upset with it. But to make people happy, perhaps making it an option that defaults to being turned on would solve any issues people have. While this is tiger specific at the moment, I would

Re: [Talk-us] Blame me for JOSM yellowness

2009-04-24 Thread Dave Hansen
On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 10:26 -0700, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: forcing every josm user to accept it is somewhere between ignorance and dictatorship Hi Apollinaris, I'd be happy to code up a custom version of JOSM for you that doesn't have the yellowness. I'd also be happy to looking into

Re: [Talk-us] Blame me for JOSM yellowness

2009-04-24 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
Dave, have already done my customize version and removed it from the style file It's just not everyone can do it and you need a working build environment check out the source code ... Not even java knowledge required, a simple grep and an editor is enough this is definitely a feature some