Re: [Talk-us] Street Naming Conventions

2010-04-07 Thread andrzej zaborowski
On 8 April 2010 00:13, Dale Puch wrote: > Personally I like the 3 field, or event the 4 field storage of the name. > Yes that means there is not a single field that has the full name, but I do > not think a lookup and concat of 4 fields vs 1 field is much different in an > indexed database.  Perha

Re: [Talk-us] Street Naming Conventions

2010-04-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 23:36:11 -0600, Val Kartchner wrote: > Using USPS abbreviations is the convention used by all commercial online > mapping providers that I've seen. (i.e.: maps.google.com, > maps.yahoo.com, www.bing.com/maps ) I think that OSM should adopt the > same convention. That's a ren

Re: [Talk-us] Street Naming Conventions

2010-04-07 Thread andrzej zaborowski
Hi, On 7 April 2010 20:12, Mike Thompson wrote: > Having said that, I think it is a bad idea to have a bot going through > and attempting to expand abbreviations. I ran the bot ([1]) over the west half of the US because me and another mapper in Portland, OR were tired of correcting the names man

Re: [Talk-us] Street Naming Conventions

2010-04-07 Thread Dale Puch
It would probably be best to have both the 'as displayed' name, and 'as spoken' in the tags. Anything else you have to make assumptions that may or may not be right. If both are not stored, the next best alternative seems to be having the full spoken name in the tags, but have seprate prefix(direc

Re: [Talk-us] Street Naming Conventions

2010-04-07 Thread Mike Thompson
I have worked with these issues for a number of years in my professional life. We have found that it is better to spell out street names. As Matthias pointed out, it is far easier to convert a named that is spelled out to one that is abbreviated than the other way around. I have seen far too man

Re: [Talk-us] Street Naming Conventions

2010-04-07 Thread am12
>What do people think? It is easy (I think) to know what "St", "Ave", and "Blvd" mean at the end of the name. The rest of them aren't always clear. I recently had to figure out what a "Lp" was ("Loop" - this one was new to me). I used to live on "Southbay Drive". I would get mail addressed as

Re: [Talk-us] Street Naming Conventions

2010-04-07 Thread Matthias Julius
andrzej zaborowski writes: > Hi, > > On 7 April 2010 07:36, Val Kartchner wrote: >> The "Editing Standards and >> Conventions" >> ("http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Editing_Standards_and_Conventions";) >> page says: "In the name tag, enter the full name as it appears on the street >> name s

Re: [Talk-us] Street Naming Conventions

2010-04-07 Thread Mike Thompson
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 6:09 AM, Eric Christensen wrote: > On 04/07/2010 03:20 AM, Gregory Arenius wrote: >> I would also like to note though that the USPS abbreviations list is >> copyright the USPS.  We'd probably have to recreate a similar list if we >> really wanted to make it our own just so t

Re: [Talk-us] Street Naming Conventions

2010-04-07 Thread Eric Christensen
On 04/07/2010 03:20 AM, Gregory Arenius wrote: > I would also like to note though that the USPS abbreviations list is > copyright the USPS. We'd probably have to recreate a similar list if we > really wanted to make it our own just so that our standard is something > we can put in our own document

Re: [Talk-us] Street Naming Conventions

2010-04-07 Thread andrzej zaborowski
Hi, On 7 April 2010 07:36, Val Kartchner wrote: > The "Editing Standards and > Conventions" > ("http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Editing_Standards_and_Conventions";) page > says: "In the name tag, enter the full name as it appears on the street name > signs. [...]  Do not abbreviate words."

Re: [Talk-us] Street Naming Conventions

2010-04-07 Thread Gregory Arenius
The USPS abbreviations are listed here: http://www.usps.com/ncsc/lookups/usps_abbreviations.html How do the commercial maps deal with this in other English speaking countries? Do they vary by country or do they use the USPS standard throughout? If they vary by country are we sure we want to do t