Re: [Talk-us] boundary import Update

2011-10-22 Thread Metcalf, Calvin (DOT)
The massachetetts admin 8 boundaries are in but it didn't go quite as smoothly as i'd like, though I will point out that with the exception of stow nothing already in was replaced. The issues 1. due to a josm bug upto 9 copies of some ways got uploaded, these are easy to fix and are noticable on

Re: [Talk-us] County borders vs. State borders

2011-10-22 Thread Alexander Roalter
On 10/21/2011 03:27 PM, Toby Murray wrote: On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Alexander Roalter wrote: I'll be pushing Michigan back for a bit and continue westwards of Iowa. FYI I've already relationalized the counties in most states west of Iowa. The first few I did I did not combine with the

[Talk-us] Signed shared roadway

2011-10-22 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hi, Mapping bike lanes here in Salt Lake I get confused by the different types of bike lanes and how to map them. There's regular bike lanes, which I tag cycleway=lane, but then there's also "green shared lanes"[1] and "signed shared roadways"[2] which I'm not sure how to map. Is there a conventio

Re: [Talk-us] Signed shared roadway

2011-10-22 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, 2011-10-22 at 15:23 -0600, Martijn van Exel wrote: > Hi, > > Mapping bike lanes here in Salt Lake I get confused by the different > types of bike lanes and how to map them. There's regular bike lanes, > which I tag cycleway=lane, but then there's also "green shared > lanes"[1] and "signed

Re: [Talk-us] Signed shared roadway

2011-10-22 Thread Martijn van Exel
With "signed shared roadways" I meant those that are explicitly marked with a sign that says that bikes share the road. I will tag those 'bicycle=designated', looking at the definition for designated that makes sense. There's also streets marked as 'quiet streets' on the SLC bike map, those can als

Re: [Talk-us] Signed shared roadway

2011-10-22 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 10/22/2011 5:23 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: Hi, Mapping bike lanes here in Salt Lake I get confused by the different types of bike lanes and how to map them. There's regular bike lanes, which I tag cycleway=lane, but then there's also "green shared lanes"[1] and "signed shared roadways"[2] wh

[Talk-us] The Open Source OpenStreetMap Book

2011-10-22 Thread Ian Dees
Hi all, Over the last week, Kate Chapman, Shaun McDonald and I worked together with some professional documentation people to write an open source OpenStreetMap getting started book. Please read my diary post to get an idea of what we did: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/iandees/diary/15152 We

Re: [Talk-us] Signed shared roadway

2011-10-22 Thread Mike N
On 10/22/2011 6:17 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: With "signed shared roadways" I meant those that are explicitly marked with a sign that says that bikes share the road. As the responses show, there are many variations on this. I don't know about all the road types, but the term Sharrow comes t

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] boundary import Update

2011-10-22 Thread Greg Troxel
I think the nuke/replace notion is sensible. So I would suggest that you put up (github seems fine, doesn't really matter as long as it's broadly accessible) several things: a pointer to the massgis data, and maybe a copy exact recipe for going from that to the .osm to upload (as scripts

Re: [Talk-us] Signed shared roadway

2011-10-22 Thread Peter Dobratz
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > With "signed shared roadways" I meant those that are explicitly marked > with a sign that says that bikes share the road. I will tag those > 'bicycle=designated', looking at the definition for designated that > makes sense. If you are ref

Re: [Talk-us] Signed shared roadway

2011-10-22 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, 2011-10-22 at 20:14 -0400, Peter Dobratz wrote: > On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > > With "signed shared roadways" I meant those that are explicitly marked > > with a sign that says that bikes share the road. I will tag those > > 'bicycle=designated', looking at t

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] boundary import Update

2011-10-22 Thread Metcalf, Calvin (DOT)
it is up at http://www.github.com/calvinmetcalf/ma-admin at the moment it just has lines and the admin_level=4 tags. I wasn't planing on posting it to github, I was planning on building it on github with the help of anyone else interested, including the deletions etc. If you look at my account

Re: [Talk-us] Signed shared roadway

2011-10-22 Thread Metcalf, Calvin (DOT)
This is something that I've been wondering in ma, would on road sign posted routes (there is a sign on a post next to the road) be tagged differently the on road shared use (there is a picture of bicycle in the lane but cars also use it) Sent with Verizon Mobile Email ---Original Message---

Re: [Talk-us] Signed shared roadway

2011-10-22 Thread Richard Welty
On 10/22/11 8:33 PM, Metcalf, Calvin (DOT) wrote: This is something that I've been wondering in ma, would on road sign posted routes (there is a sign on a post next to the road) be tagged differently the on road shared use (there is a picture of bicycle in the lane but cars also use it) Sent

Re: [Talk-us] Signed shared roadway

2011-10-22 Thread Anthony
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Richard Welty wrote: > On 10/22/11 8:33 PM, Metcalf, Calvin (DOT) wrote: >> >> This is something that I've been wondering in ma, would on road sign >> posted routes (there is a sign on a post next to the road) be tagged >> differently the on road shared use (there

Re: [Talk-us] Signed shared roadway

2011-10-22 Thread Richard Welty
On 10/22/11 9:17 PM, Anthony wrote: On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Richard Welty wrote: i think they should be tagged differently. if there's just a black on yellow sign saying "share the road" then cyclists should stay to the right. Only if the outside lane is about 14 feet wide or wider,

Re: [Talk-us] Signed shared roadway

2011-10-22 Thread Anthony
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Richard Welty wrote: > On 10/22/11 9:17 PM, Anthony wrote: >> >> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Richard Welty >>  wrote: >>> >>> i think they should be tagged differently. >>> >>> if there's just a black on yellow sign saying "share the road" then >>> cyclists >>

Re: [Talk-us] Signed shared roadway

2011-10-22 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 10/22/2011 9:13 PM, Richard Welty wrote: if there's just a black on yellow sign saying "share the road" then cyclists should stay to the right. Not at all. http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/on-the-road/sharing-the-road/ http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/2010/11/29/helping-motorists-with-

Re: [Talk-us] Signed shared roadway

2011-10-22 Thread Anthony
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Richard Welty wrote: > this text may be found in section 1234 on this page: > > https://www.nysdot.gov/divisions/operating/opdm/local-programs-bureau/repository/bicycle/safety-and-laws/laws.html Hmm, I just looked at the text. Did you intentionally leave out the

Re: [Talk-us] Signed shared roadway

2011-10-22 Thread Anthony
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > On 10/22/2011 9:13 PM, Richard Welty wrote: >> >> if there's just a black on yellow sign saying "share the road" then >> cyclists >> should stay to the right. > > Not at all. > http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/on-the-road/sharing-the-ro

Re: [Talk-us] Signed shared roadway

2011-10-22 Thread Richard Welty
On 10/22/11 9:59 PM, Anthony wrote: On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Richard Welty wrote: this text may be found in section 1234 on this page: https://www.nysdot.gov/divisions/operating/opdm/local-programs-bureau/repository/bicycle/safety-and-laws/laws.html Hmm, I just looked at the text. Di

Re: [Talk-us] Signed shared roadway

2011-10-22 Thread Anthony
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Richard Welty wrote: > not intentionally, and i did include the link so people could read it, so > perhaps we could drop the confrontational bit. Sorry. > you will note that i didn't > come back at you about the fact that there are no specs anywhere about > 14'

Re: [Talk-us] Signed shared roadway

2011-10-22 Thread Metcalf, Calvin (DOT)
Yeah so i wasn't talking about share the road signs I was talking about signed bike routes that have signs that give directions and anounce it. Bear in mind in MA they are legely equivelent to sharos. Sent with Verizon Mobile Email ---Original Message--- From: "Anthony" Sent: 10/22/2011 10:10

Re: [Talk-us] Signed shared roadway

2011-10-22 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 10/22/2011 10:37 PM, Metcalf, Calvin (DOT) wrote: Yeah so i wasn't talking about share the road signs I was talking about signed bike routes that have signs that give directions and anounce it. Bear in mind in MA they are legely equivelent to sharos. Assuming you mean legally (not largely

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] boundary import Update

2011-10-22 Thread Peter Dobratz
So you've got a git repository with OSM data that you eventually plan on uploading to replace data that is already in the official OSM database? But you've already demonstrated that your method of uploading results in lots of duplicate Ways, so I'm not sure this is a good plan at all. Is there an

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] The Open Source OpenStreetMap Book

2011-10-22 Thread Ian Dees
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Jaakko Helleranta.com < jaa...@helleranta.com> wrote: > I don't have a good enough internet access at hand here but a few thoughts: > * excellent! > * if/since u go the open source way for the book (which LearnOSM.org is > too, eih?): > It is open source right no