Re: [Talk-us] Fixing TIGER street name abbreviations

2012-05-11 Thread Kristian M Zoerhoff
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 04:47:37AM -0400, Serge Wroclawski wrote: I've added direction expansion into a new version, and thrown it up as a gist: https://gist.github.com/2656735 I don't treat direction prefixes and suffixes any differently- I haven't seen an example where there is both a

Re: [Talk-us] Fixing TIGER street name abbreviations

2012-05-11 Thread Anthony
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:45 PM, Dale Puch dale.p...@gmail.com wrote: Clarity!  The abbreviations are just that, they mean the full word, and are spoken that way, but written and displayed as the abbreviation.  I also disagree I have never know anyone that said whatever A V E  they do not

Re: [Talk-us] Fixing TIGER street name abbreviations

2012-05-11 Thread Anthony
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: The only way to capture the full information is to have additional tags telling you what the base is.  And if you do that, abbreviating or not abbreviating doesn't matter. And if you want to avoid tremendous redundancy, the way to

Re: [Talk-us] Abbreviation expansion - USS to United States Ship?

2012-05-11 Thread Phil! Gold
* Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com [2012-05-10 14:01 -0400]: I think if we were too look at what is on the sign I bet it is U.S.S. MLK though often fully spells out the name on the sign. I would think in these cases it should be what is on the sign. Since it isn't an abbreviation of the road

Re: [Talk-us] Fixing TIGER street name abbreviations

2012-05-11 Thread Minh Nguyen
On 2012-05-11 6:45 AM, Anthony wrote: Not really. Is 1515 South West Shore Boulevard, Tampa abbreviated 1515 S West Shore Blvd, Tampa, or is it abbreviated 1515 S W Shore Blvd, Tampa? If you want the answer, ask usps.com. The only way to capture the full information is to have additional tags

Re: [Talk-us] Fixing TIGER street name abbreviations

2012-05-11 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2012-05-10 19:40, Anthony wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: The only question is what to do about those cases where it's only referred to locally as 'Ave', and the postal service would refuse letters addressed to 'Avenue'. The postal service would

Re: [Talk-us] Fixing TIGER street name abbreviations

2012-05-11 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2012-05-10 19:56, Anthony wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: But you wouldn't be confused if an stranger came in asking how to get to Whatever Avenue?If not, then there's no problem with the expansion. Okay, so basically we're ignoring the

Re: [Talk-us] Fixing TIGER street name abbreviations

2012-05-11 Thread Anthony
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Minh Nguyen m...@1ec5.org wrote: On 2012-05-11 6:45 AM, Anthony wrote: The only way to capture the full information is to have additional tags telling you what the base is.  And if you do that, abbreviating or not abbreviating doesn't matter. That's similar

Re: [Talk-us] Fixing TIGER street name abbreviations

2012-05-11 Thread Anthony
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net wrote: At 2012-05-10 19:40, Anthony wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote:  The only question is what to do about those cases where it's only referred to locally as 'Ave', and the

Re: [Talk-us] Fixing TIGER street name abbreviations

2012-05-11 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2012-05-11 10:20, David ``Smith'' wrote: Third, I suggest retaining the abbreviated form in a tag like abbr_name. Ideally, this should be the exact abbreviated form used on signs, if that's consistent. Getting this right requires local knowledge, but TIGER's abbreviation might be better

Re: [Talk-us] Abbreviation expansion - USS to United States Ship?

2012-05-11 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2012-05-10 09:33, Nathan Edgars II wrote: Is this a good idea? It looks really odd to me: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/9061339 I don't like it. There are some more in that changeset, and another previous one for that user too. -- Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net

Re: [Talk-us] Abbreviation expansion - USS to United States Ship?

2012-05-11 Thread Alan Mintz
There are 52 of these United States Ship ways. OAPI query: http://www.overpass-api.de/api/interpreter?data=(way[%22name%22~%22%5EUnited%20States%20Ship%20%22];node(w));out%20meta; -- Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net ___ Talk-us mailing list

Re: [Talk-us] Fixing TIGER street name abbreviations

2012-05-11 Thread Dale Puch
I understand the script checks for only one instance of the abbreviation. My point was what is someone manually expanded ONE of the abbreviations, leaving st something street? Is that checked for? The question also applies to Dr something Dr previously changed to Dr something Drive, and possibly

Re: [Talk-us] Fixing TIGER street name abbreviations

2012-05-11 Thread Mike N
On 5/11/2012 1:36 PM, Alan Mintz wrote: Okay, so basically we're ignoring the on-the-ground rule in order to map for the renderer. Exactly :) Why that is ok, I don't know :( Mapping for the renderer has never been wrong or discouraged. Tagging incorrectly for the renderer is another

Re: [Talk-us] Fixing TIGER street name abbreviations

2012-05-11 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2012-05-11 14:11, Mike N wrote: On 5/11/2012 1:36 PM, Alan Mintz wrote: Okay, so basically we're ignoring the on-the-ground rule in order to map for the renderer. Exactly :) Why that is ok, I don't know :( Mapping for the renderer has never been wrong or discouraged. Tagging

Re: [Talk-us] Fixing TIGER street name abbreviations

2012-05-11 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Dale Puch dale.p...@gmail.com wrote: I understand the script checks for only one instance of the abbreviation. My point was what is someone manually expanded ONE of the abbreviations, leaving st something street?  Is that checked for? I have a number of

[Talk-us] TIGER road expansion code

2012-05-11 Thread Serge Wroclawski
Since the other thread has gotten a bit long, I want to start a new thread to discuss the TIGER road expansion code. The current version of the code is at: https://gist.github.com/2656735 Taking Dale's test cases, I've met a new version of the code and ran it against Maryland. (I didn't put the