I've added direction expansion into a new version, and thrown it up as a gist:
https://gist.github.com/2656735
I don't treat direction prefixes and suffixes any differently- I
haven't seen an example where there is both a prefix and a suffix in
the name, and they're the same as the suffix.
The
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 04:47:37AM -0400, Serge Wroclawski wrote:
> I've added direction expansion into a new version, and thrown it up as a gist:
>
> https://gist.github.com/2656735
>
>
> I don't treat direction prefixes and suffixes any differently- I
> haven't seen an example where there is b
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:45 PM, Dale Puch wrote:
> Clarity! The abbreviations are just that, they mean the full word, and are
> spoken that way, but written and displayed as the abbreviation. I also
> disagree I have never know anyone that said "whatever A V E" they do not
> spell it out, the
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Kristian M Zoerhoff wrote:
> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 04:47:37AM -0400, Serge Wroclawski wrote:
> > I've added direction expansion into a new version, and thrown it up as a
> gist:
> >
> > https://gist.github.com/2656735
> >
> >
> > I don't treat direction prefixes
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Anthony wrote:
> The only way to capture the full information is to have additional
> tags telling you what the base is. And if you do that, abbreviating
> or not abbreviating doesn't matter.
And if you want to avoid tremendous redundancy, the way to that is
with
* Kate Chapman [2012-05-10 14:01 -0400]:
> I think if we were too look at what is on the sign I bet it is U.S.S.
>
> MLK though often fully spells out the name on the sign.
>
> I would think in these cases it should be what is on the sign. Since
> it isn't an abbreviation of the road type, but t
On 2012-05-11 6:45 AM, Anthony wrote:
Not really. Is "1515 South West Shore Boulevard, Tampa" abbreviated
"1515 S West Shore Blvd, Tampa", or is it abbreviated "1515 S W Shore
Blvd, Tampa"? If you want the answer, ask usps.com.
The only way to capture the full information is to have additional
On 5/11/2012 9:45 AM, Anthony wrote:
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:45 PM, Dale Puch wrote:
Clarity! The abbreviations are just that, they mean the full word, and are
spoken that way, but written and displayed as the abbreviation. I also
disagree I have never know anyone that said "whatever A V E
First, I apologize for posting my opinion without reading the entire
thread. It's a long thread, so I hope you understand.
Second, I'm okay with automated expansion of unambiguous road-type trailing
words. Pk can be either park or pike, so leave that to local humans.
Leading road-type words like
At 2012-05-10 19:40, Anthony wrote:
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Mike N wrote:
> The only question is what to do about those cases where it's only referred
> to locally as 'Ave', and the postal service would refuse letters addressed
> to 'Avenue'.
The postal service would refuse letters
At 2012-05-10 19:56, Anthony wrote:
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Mike N wrote:
> But you wouldn't be confused if an stranger came in asking how to get to
> "Whatever Avenue"?If not, then there's no problem with the expansion.
Okay, so basically we're ignoring the on-the-ground rule in
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Minh Nguyen wrote:
> On 2012-05-11 6:45 AM, Anthony wrote:
>> The only way to capture the full information is to have additional
>> tags telling you what the base is. And if you do that, abbreviating
>> or not abbreviating doesn't matter.
>
>
> That's similar to
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> Ave is a bad example, since it is common to say 'Ave' rather than 'Avenue'.
That's what makes it a *good* example :).
> But I can't think of any other suffixes that are commonly abbreviated in
> speech. Maybe Cir?
If we're dealing with
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Alan Mintz
wrote:
> At 2012-05-10 19:40, Anthony wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Mike N wrote:
>>
>> > The only question is what to do about those cases where it's only
>> > referred
>> > to locally as 'Ave', and the postal service would refuse let
At 2012-05-10 20:45, Dale Puch wrote:
The issue with abbreviations is
very muddy. BUT it has been said many time that we do not want to
abbreviate where possible. There are several reasons.
Clarity! The abbreviations are just that, they mean the full
word, and are spoken that way, but writte
At 2012-05-11 10:20, David ``Smith'' wrote:
Third, I suggest retaining the abbreviated form in a tag like abbr_name.
Ideally, this should be the exact abbreviated form used on signs, if
that's consistent. Getting this right requires local knowledge, but
TIGER's abbreviation might be better th
At 2012-05-10 09:33, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
Is this a good idea? It looks really odd to me:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/9061339
I don't like it. There are some more in that changeset, and another
previous one for that user too.
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I understand the script checks for only one instance of the abbreviation.
My point was what is someone manually expanded ONE of the abbreviations,
leaving "st something street"? Is that checked for? The question also
applies to "Dr something Dr" previously changed to "Dr something Drive",
and pos
On 5/11/2012 1:36 PM, Alan Mintz wrote:
Okay, so basically we're ignoring the on-the-ground rule in order to
map for the renderer.
Exactly :) Why that is ok, I don't know :(
Mapping for the renderer has never been wrong or discouraged.
Tagging incorrectly for the renderer is another story.
At 2012-05-11 14:11, Mike N wrote:
On 5/11/2012 1:36 PM, Alan Mintz wrote:
Okay, so basically we're ignoring the on-the-ground rule in order to
map for the renderer.
Exactly :) Why that is ok, I don't know :(
Mapping for the renderer has never been wrong or discouraged. Tagging
incorrectl
On 5/11/2012 5:54 PM, Alan Mintz wrote:
Mapping for the renderer has never been wrong or discouraged.
Tagging incorrectly for the renderer is another story...
That is not my recollection.
Here's the page, complete with history -
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tagging_for_the_renderer
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Dale Puch wrote:
> I understand the script checks for only one instance of the abbreviation.
> My point was what is someone manually expanded ONE of the abbreviations,
> leaving "st something street"? Is that checked for?
I have a number of thoughts here:
1. R
Since the other thread has gotten a bit long, I want to start a new
thread to discuss the TIGER road expansion code.
The current version of the code is at: https://gist.github.com/2656735
Taking Dale's test cases, I've met a new version of the code and ran
it against Maryland. (I didn't put the
Lots of weird ones from Florida Many should not give you an issue due to
how your processing, but it is best to test them anyhow. Also it might be
a good reference when looking at other expansions after this runs.
way id="10761946" "name" v="E 10th Ct E"
way id="10763539" "name" v="E 10th St E"
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