[Talk-us] Map of bot node edits

2012-07-20 Thread Toby Murray
Alright... I got something running. http://ni.kwsn.net/~toby/OSM/maps/redaction.html It is a map that shows all nodes (but ONLY nodes) touched by the bot in the US and Canada. Actually I thought I was only doing the lower 48 but apparently Maperitive decided that I wanted more. I think it cuts

Re: [Talk-us] LA part of the map essentially is unusable

2012-07-20 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Charlotte Wolter wrote: Got it. Thanks for the explanation. So, how do I load shapefiles into a separate layer? I need someone to walk me through it. How would I do that, if I wanted to get things like street names (and the other TIGER data)? I'll post a how-to at the start

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: Post bot cleanup

2012-07-20 Thread David ``Smith''
I've been having a bit of fun remapping unclean areas based on cleanmap and remapping after the bot. It's a bit like the initial TIGER cleanup, but this time I feel extra pride at achieving even higher quality than in that effort years ago. (More experience, better tools, more familiarity with

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: Post bot cleanup

2012-07-20 Thread Alexander Jones
David ``Smith'' wrote: I've been having a bit of fun remapping unclean areas based on cleanmap and remapping after the bot. It's a bit like the initial TIGER cleanup, but this time I feel extra pride at achieving even higher quality than in that effort years ago. (More experience, better

Re: [Talk-us] Post bot cleanup

2012-07-20 Thread Phil! Gold
* Mike N nice...@att.net [2012-07-19 17:01 -0400]: FYI in South Carolina, I'm volunteering to clean up the northwestern part of the state because I have some local knowledge. Cool. I've just finished looking over I-20 and repairing all the roads that were split to make bridges over it. I

Re: [Talk-us] Post bot cleanup

2012-07-20 Thread Mike N
On 7/19/2012 4:22 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: Another thing I find is a lot of leftover stray nodes without any tags. I select them in JOSM with type:node tags:0 -child and delete them in one fell swoop. In many cases, I find it easier to retrieve and plop the TIGER road back in as a

[Talk-us] Some observations and motivation

2012-07-20 Thread Alexander Jones
I know that this probably isn't the best forum for what I'm about to write, but I feel this should be heard by a wide audience. And yes, this is on- topic. - What is OpenStreetMap? Well, the way I see it, OSM is a

Re: [Talk-us] Some observations and motivation

2012-07-20 Thread Richard Weait
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Alexander Jones happy5...@gmail.com wrote: [ many nice words ] So, let's stop bickering, and make it even better. Let's shall. :-) ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org

[Talk-us] Burbank, LA and beyond

2012-07-20 Thread Richard Weait
Hi all, I've done some random cleanup in parts of LA. Or Burbank of whatever. I'm not expert enough to recognize the sub-regional details of the greater LA area. :-) When a community member calls for help, there are many of us who like to help. In this case, I'd like some more help to let me

Re: [Talk-us] Some observations and motivation

2012-07-20 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hey Alexander, On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Alexander Jones happy5...@gmail.com wrote: I know that this probably isn't the best forum for what I'm about to write, but I feel this should be heard by a wide audience. And yes, this is on- topic. [...] So, let's stop bickering, and make it

Re: [Talk-us] LA part of the map essentially is unusable

2012-07-20 Thread Charlotte Wolter
Richard, Terrific! Thanks. Charlotte At 01:49 AM 7/20/2012, you wrote: Charlotte Wolter wrote: Got it. Thanks for the explanation. So, how do I load shapefiles into a separate layer? I need someone to walk me through it. How would I do that, if I wanted to get

Re: [Talk-us] LA part of the map essentially is unusable

2012-07-20 Thread Robert Kaiser
Charlotte Wolter schrieb: So, are you volunteering? Anyone else? Looks like people are stepping up anyhow. I'd more comfortable by fixing things closer to home, i.e. in areas I actually know well enough personally. :) Good luck with your work there, and I hope this all doesn't

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: Post bot cleanup

2012-07-20 Thread Kai Krueger
Paul Norman wrote From: Toby Murray [mailto:toby.murray@] Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: Post bot cleanup I'm also wondering if a routing regression suite exists anywhere that could be used to help identify broken interstates and other major ways, as the tagging changes and 2 node

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: Post bot cleanup

2012-07-20 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hey, On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Kai Krueger kakrue...@gmail.com wrote: [..] OK, I have had a first stab at it. http://apmon.dev.openstreetmap.org/us_routing_grid.html It is only 25 cities so far, but if it turns out to be useful it can easily be extended to more cities. The big

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: Post bot cleanup

2012-07-20 Thread the Old Topo Depot
I'm presuming that Kai's link is showing only current data. So what's needed is 1. A pre-redaction planet snapshot, loaded into a DB. 2. An installation of the OSRM that uses 1 for its calculations 3. Changes to Kai's work to look at both source, compute the deltas and color the results

Re: [Talk-us] Map of bot node edits -- working on I 40

2012-07-20 Thread Charlotte Wolter
Hello, It was suggested that we tell the list which interstates we are working on to avoid conflicts. Toby's new tool just alerted me to issues on I-40 west of Flagstaff. Since I know that road well, I have started work on them. I also did a lot of work on I-40 from Gallup to

Re: [Talk-us] Map of bot node edits

2012-07-20 Thread Sax-Barnett, Melelani
Toby said: Alright... I got something running. http://ni.kwsn.net/~toby/OSM/maps/redaction.html Thanks, Toby! I would love to see it zoomed in a little more if you get around to it. I also wanted to share a strategy with everyone that I'm using for finding the ways that were edited by the

Re: [Talk-us] Routing tests

2012-07-20 Thread the Old Topo Depot
It may appropriate to consider several metrics, but I also think it important to get a first version running. Another way of saying this is iterate and add refinements over time. Metrics to consider (pre vs post redaction) in roughly order of complexity: 1. Distance of route (using segment

[Talk-us] Starting OSM Trail Map Initiative In US

2012-07-20 Thread Fred Gifford
Hi all, I am starting the process of pulling together a group to focus on updating and expanding trail data in OSM. The initial focus would be in the US but we are hoping the model could expand to other areas as well. Initially the project would have two main focus areas – - Focused effort to

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: Post bot cleanup

2012-07-20 Thread Richard Weait
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Kai Krueger kakrue...@gmail.com wrote: [ ... ] OK, I have had a first stab at it. http://apmon.dev.openstreetmap.org/us_routing_grid.html It is only 25 cities so far, but if it turns out to be useful it can easily be extended to more cities. The big

[Talk-us] OSM is pretty

2012-07-20 Thread Martijn van Exel
I was just randomly browsing the map and happened upon the Epcot center: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=28.373lon=-81.5483zoom=17layers=M That's one pretty looking map! -- martijn van exel http://oegeo.wordpress.com ___ Talk-us mailing list

Re: [Talk-us] OSM is pretty

2012-07-20 Thread Mike N
On 7/20/2012 4:46 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: I was just randomly browsing the map and happened upon the Epcot center: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=28.373lon=-81.5483zoom=17layers=M That's one pretty looking map! Agreed! I made use of it just a few weeks ago.

Re: [Talk-us] LA part of the map essentially is unusable

2012-07-20 Thread jeremy jozwik
so i have been running around the los angles area trying to rebuild the map. and i have found the area in orange county along the 405 before i-5 is completely gone. i would say the map has been reverted to its state about 3 years ago. anyone looking to map should start helping me out in that area.

Re: [Talk-us] Starting OSM Trail Map Initiative In US

2012-07-20 Thread Mike Thompson
Fred, I think it is a great idea to focus on trails. In my opinion, this would be a great use of OSM. In my area OSM already has data that in many cases is better than publicly available data. Best way to get this data is to turn on the GPS and go for a hike or bike ride. One area we could

Re: [Talk-us] Starting OSM Trail Map Initiative In US

2012-07-20 Thread Apollinaris Schöll
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Fred Gifford fred.giff...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, Initially the project would have two main focus areas – - Focused effort to gather public domain trail data and use it to update existing trail data in OSM through hybrid editing \ bulk upload methodology.

Re: [Talk-us] Starting OSM Trail Map Initiative In US

2012-07-20 Thread Greg Troxel
Fred Gifford fred.giff...@gmail.com writes: I am starting the process of pulling together a group to focus on updating and expanding trail data in OSM. The initial focus would be in the US but we are hoping the model could expand to other areas as well. You should first assess how things

Re: [Talk-us] Starting OSM Trail Map Initiative In US

2012-07-20 Thread Apollinaris Schöll
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Mike Thompson miketh...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone tried to work with local hiking/mountain clubs on mapping trails? I know one guy from the sierra club. He is organizing hikes for the club year round and turns them into mapping parties for anyone

[Talk-us] Tracking Interstate Work Progress on OSM Wiki

2012-07-20 Thread the Old Topo Depot
What do folks on the list think of using a page such as http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:JohnANovak/Interstates to track progress on Interstates (and similarly for other major road classes as well) -- John Novak 585-OLD-TOPOS (585-653-8676)

Re: [Talk-us] Tracking Interstate Work Progress on OSM Wiki

2012-07-20 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 4:44 PM, the Old Topo Depot oldto...@novacell.comwrote: What do folks on the list think of using a page such as http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:JohnANovak/Interstates to track progress on Interstates (and similarly for other major road classes as well) Not

Re: [Talk-us] [Rebuild] Moving/Deleting Roads

2012-07-20 Thread Richard Weait
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 8:39 PM, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: yes, most of the OC is a cluster %^$#. i gave up because it was too overwhelming. Take smaller bites. :-) Rome (New York) wasn't mapped in a day. :-) ___ Talk-us mailing

Re: [Talk-us] Starting OSM Trail Map Initiative In US

2012-07-20 Thread Richard Weait
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote: Fred Gifford fred.giff...@gmail.com writes: [ ... ] - Building trail mapping communities in the US. Indeed, that is the key point. I think this is the best way to success. You could even leave out the trail and it will have

Re: [Talk-us] Starting OSM Trail Map Initiative In US

2012-07-20 Thread Mike Thompson
please no bulk upload. public data isn't always up to date and really needs a review. if a trail is missing it's not a big deal when you have an additional option. But if you plan a long hike and a trail is no passable anymore it can be really dangerous. +1 And special tags have to be

Re: [Talk-us] Starting OSM Trail Map Initiative In US

2012-07-20 Thread Mike Thompson
- Focused effort to gather public domain trail data and use it to update existing trail data in OSM through hybrid editing \ bulk upload methodology. Just and idea for the community's consideration: as an avid trail user and mapper, the one type of bulk upload that would interest me would be

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: Post bot cleanup

2012-07-20 Thread Kai Krueger
Martijn van Exel-3 wrote The big problem though is automatically figuring out if routes are broken or not and then colour them red or green accordingly. At the moment it doesn't do this at all. Anyone have some good ideas for this? The 'easiest' way I see is to compare those results

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: Post bot cleanup

2012-07-20 Thread James Mast
Very nice Kai. However, I'd like to suggest a few more cities that might be of use for that. Pittsburgh Cleveland Las Vegas Toronto, Ontario (mainly because you added Winnipeg) -James Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 20:28:16 -0700 From: kakrue...@gmail.com To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: Post bot cleanup

2012-07-20 Thread the Old Topo Depot
Most Excellent, and perhaps we should move this to Toby's routing thread ;-) On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 8:37 PM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.comwrote: Very nice Kai. However, I'd like to suggest a few more cities that might be of use for that. Pittsburgh Cleveland Las Vegas Toronto,