Re: [Talk-us] Role of the Wiki

2012-12-05 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 12/05/12 02:44, Jeff Meyer wrote: What's the role of the wiki as a source of information in the OSM community? It would be ideal if the Wiki could be relied upon as a guide to everything in OSM so that if you want to know how is X usually done in OSM you can turn to the Wiki and find

Re: [Talk-us] Role of the Wiki

2012-12-05 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Jeff Meyer j...@gwhat.org wrote: Hi - N00b question here: What's the role of the wiki as a source of information in the OSM community? It's a mixed bag, some of the information is very good and of high quality and some is outdated, and some is of low quality.

[Talk-us] tools for analysis of road networks?

2012-12-05 Thread Richard Welty
i'm looking at a need to do some analysis estimation based on road nets extracted from OSM; the goal is to be able to estimate things like time to complete ground surveys (e.g., TIGER review and collection of hydrant locations.) are there any libraries or tools kicking around that folks might

Re: [Talk-us] tools for analysis of road networks?

2012-12-05 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 12/05/2012 03:55 PM, Richard Welty wrote: i'm looking at a need to do some analysis estimation based on road nets extracted from OSM; the goal is to be able to estimate things like time to complete ground surveys (e.g., TIGER review and collection of hydrant locations.) are there any

Re: [Talk-us] tools for analysis of road networks?

2012-12-05 Thread Richard Welty
On 12/5/12 10:04 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 12/05/2012 03:55 PM, Richard Welty wrote: i'm looking at a need to do some analysis estimation based on road nets extracted from OSM; the goal is to be able to estimate things like time to complete ground surveys (e.g., TIGER review and

Re: [Talk-us] tools for analysis of road networks?

2012-12-05 Thread the Old Topo Depot
Richard, If the data you're using is in PostGIS ST_Length will give you the length of all the ways of interest within a bounding box, and, if you reproject to EPSG:900913 before calling the function you'll get the results in meters. select ST_length( ST_Transform( linestring, 900913 ) ), id,

Re: [Talk-us] tools for analysis of road networks?

2012-12-05 Thread Paul Norman
It's worth noting that the results will be in Mercator meters, not meters. I have OSM loaded into a pgsnapshot db and can run queries on request. Something else is that tags-'highway' in ( 'motorway', 'primary', 'secondary' ) will NOT use indexes on tags. tags @ hstore('highway',

Re: [Talk-us] tools for analysis of road networks?

2012-12-05 Thread Martijn van Exel
Interesting, I have been looking for a way to speed up those types of queries for a while, thanks! Do you have metrics on this? On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: Something else is that tags-'highway' in ( 'motorway', 'primary', 'secondary' ) will NOT use

Re: [Talk-us] tools for analysis of road networks?

2012-12-05 Thread Ian Dees
These are the sorts of queries that jxapi does all the time. hstore's @ and ? operators use index, others don't. As far as metrics... an xapi query like [highway=*][ref|name=*][bbox=a,b,c,d] on jxapi was taking ~5-10 hours when it was using exists(tags, 'highway') (which doesn't use the index on

Re: [Talk-us] Role of the Wiki

2012-12-05 Thread Scott Rollins
I'll just say that, whether bug or feature, this message perfectly encapsulates why I am unwilling to spend my time working on OSM. I don't want to waste my time, and by not having a good place to learn what to do, I have to do a whole lot of work to figure out whether the additions I'm making

Re: [Talk-us] Role of the Wiki

2012-12-05 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 05.12.2012 20:38, Scott Rollins wrote: I love the concept of OSM, and I'm glad to have the ability to use maps based on OSM's work...but the setup of the project leaves me feeling unable to usefully contribute. To everyone who feels that way, I recommend going to a local OSM pub meet

Re: [Talk-us] Role of the Wiki

2012-12-05 Thread Martijn van Exel
No place to learn what to do? The wiki may be overwhelming, sometimes outdated and incorrect, or even a vehicle for personal opinions on tagging and whatnot, but there are definitely resources to help you get started. All OSM editors have useful presets for common features, you can't really go

Re: [Talk-us] Role of the Wiki

2012-12-05 Thread Martijn van Exel
Kathleen, Yes, the Welcome WG does need a boost after Richard's (cc) initial great work on the proposal and initial meeting. I wanted to wait until the semester is over so that my teaching obligations would not keep interfering, but I guess we're almost there, so I am willing to organize a next

Re: [Talk-us] Role of the Wiki

2012-12-05 Thread Kathleen Danielson
*Some of these resources may require a little effort on your part, and they may not all be as well advertised **or interconnected as they should be,* but you have to realize that OpenStreetMap is eternally a work in progress, run entirely by volunteers who are working really hard to keep up

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed Welcome Working Group meeting (was: Role of the Wiki)

2012-12-05 Thread Martijn van Exel
For those who already looked at the doodle: I changed the times just now as I realized the proposed times would be in the middle of the night for Europe. On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: I thought I should bump this up to its own thread: The Welcome WG

Re: [Talk-us] Role of the Wiki

2012-12-05 Thread Russ Nelson
Scott Rollins writes: I'll just say that, whether bug or feature, this message perfectly encapsulates why I am unwilling to spend my time working on OSM. I don't want to waste my time, and by not having a good place to learn what to do, Scott, what Fred said! You don't need to be an expert