Re: [Talk-us] Separate relations for each direction of US & State highways.

2013-11-18 Thread James Mast
Well, one of the main reasons I brought this up is because I've noticed another user changing some relations from "forward/backward" to "west/east"/"south/north" without discussing this here on talk-us. That user would happen to be KristenK. This user has been doing this since the 11th at lea

[Talk-us] mappy hour!

2013-11-18 Thread Martijn van Exel
can someone post on IRC? https://plus.google.com/events/crt026uc10l7i1oetvquep466eo ( I hope this is the right link...G+) -- Martijn van Exel http://oegeo.wordpress.com/ http://openstreetmap.us/ ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org ht

Re: [Talk-us] Separate relations for each direction of US & State highways.

2013-11-18 Thread Evin Fairchild
Re the comment by Nathan: “I'm still confused as to why the consumers of a relation can't use the forward/backward roles…” The forward/backward roles only make sense on one-way roads. Other than that, which way is forward and which way is backward? Depends on which way you’re driving down the r

Re: [Talk-us] Separate relations for each direction of US & State highways.

2013-11-18 Thread Nathan Mills
They're not at all hard to find in the US. I would wager that fewer than 50% of the actual on the ground road routes in the US have any divided segment whatsoever. What exactly is captured by two relations that is not captured by one, however? That's the part I'm not understanding. We have tool

Re: [Talk-us] Separate relations for each direction of US & State highways.

2013-11-18 Thread Jason Remillard
Hi, As a meta comment. I have been trying to follow all of the US route/shield discussions over the past couple of months. I don't feel confident that I understand the consensus on how to map these routes+shields and do not feel comfortable editing them. When the dust settles, could somebody that

Re: [Talk-us] Separate relations for each direction of US & State highways.

2013-11-18 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/11/18 Nathan Mills > I'm still confused as to why the consumers of a relation can't use the > forward/backward roles of the ways referenced therein rather than requiring > completely separate relations. Why do we need two or more relations plus a > super relation per road route even for undi

Re: [Talk-us] take responsibility, not control.

2013-11-18 Thread stevea
When you find a suspicious edit, try to be part of the solution, What a really well-written post. Thank you, Richard! SteveA California ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] Separate relations for each direction of US & State highways.

2013-11-18 Thread Nathan Mills
I'm still confused as to why the consumers of a relation can't use the forward/backward roles of the ways referenced therein rather than requiring completely separate relations. Why do we need two or more relations plus a super relation per road route even for undivided highways? Even for a some

Re: [Talk-us] take responsibility, not control.

2013-11-18 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/11/18 Richard Weait > Repair or revert data that is incorrect. Get help from a > more-experienced mapper if you haven't done this before. > Thank you Richard for this post. Very true that every single mapper can try to make contact with other mappers in his surroundings and find a solution

Re: [Talk-us] Separate relations for each direction of US & State highways.

2013-11-18 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > Not a fan. It greatly complicates things for information that can either > be gleaned obviously or is a "nice to have." Having 3+ relations for > something that isn't fully divided just complicates things, with the > exception edge case of

[Talk-us] take responsibility, not control.

2013-11-18 Thread Richard Weait
When you find a suspicious edit, try to be part of the solution, rather than merely a reporting system. :-) If you are experienced enough, attempt to determine which account introduced the suspicious data. Contact that account through the user mail system. Presume good faith; they may well be a

Re: [Talk-us] Separate relations for each direction of US & State highways.

2013-11-18 Thread Paul Johnson
Not a fan. It greatly complicates things for information that can either be gleaned obviously or is a "nice to have." Having 3+ relations for something that isn't fully divided just complicates things, with the exception edge case of a relation that starts or ends on a divided highway. On Sun,