Re: [Talk-us] Differences with USA admin_level tagging

2017-07-11 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 7:47 PM, OSM Volunteer stevea wrote: > I welcome and respect both of these perspectives, many, really and that can > be challenging. Minh's approach of "documenting what the map says" in the > wiki steps in a certain direction in the wiki that

Re: [Talk-us] Differences with USA admin_level tagging

2017-07-11 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
Richard Welty rwelty at averillpark.net wrote (I paraphrase): Kevin oversimplified New York state admin_level; I live here and have different post and school office boundaries. Thank you, Richard: I am in listening mode. Our US_admin_level wiki mentions school districts, but nothing is stated

Re: [Talk-us] Talk-us Digest, Vol 116, Issue 20

2017-07-11 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
Frederik Ramm writes: > I think there might be a misunderstanding here and I would like to chip in... Thank you for chipping in, Frederik! > If you have an admin_level 4 entity - like a state - then the boundaries > with admin_level 4 are the outer demarcation of that,

Re: [Talk-us] Differences with USA admin_level tagging

2017-07-11 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 3:53 PM, Richard Welty wrote: > On 7/11/17 2:46 PM, Kerry Irons wrote: >> If all of you want to have some fun with jurisdictional boundaries, take a >> look at College Corner, OH/IN. It is a village purposefully straddling the >> OH/IN state

Re: [Talk-us] Differences with USA admin_level tagging

2017-07-11 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 2:46 PM, Kerry Irons wrote: > If all of you want to have some fun with jurisdictional boundaries, take a > look at College Corner, OH/IN. It is a village purposefully straddling the > OH/IN state lines with the main street being the state line.

Re: [Talk-us] Differences with USA admin_level tagging

2017-07-11 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 2:46 PM, Kerry Irons wrote: > If all of you want to have some fun with jurisdictional boundaries, take a > look at College Corner, OH/IN. It is a village purposefully straddling the > OH/IN state lines with the main street being the state line.

Re: [Talk-us] Differences with USA admin_level tagging

2017-07-11 Thread Richard Welty
On 7/11/17 2:46 PM, Kerry Irons wrote: > If all of you want to have some fun with jurisdictional boundaries, take a > look at College Corner, OH/IN. It is a village purposefully straddling the > OH/IN state lines with the main street being the state line. It has two zip > codes, is in three

Re: [Talk-us] Differences with USA admin_level tagging

2017-07-11 Thread Brad Neuhauser
Frederik's description of colored polygons made me think of the French OSM instance, which can display admin level, ie http://layers.openstreetmap.fr/?zoom=5=39.9597=-78.77311=0B000FFFTFF Regarding Native American reservations, while there "is no consensus" there are a couple

Re: [Talk-us] Differences with USA admin_level tagging

2017-07-11 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 07/11/2017 08:18 PM, OSM Volunteer stevea wrote: > I'm glad Adam brings up the topic of Gores, as I'm also unclear on how such > "holes" get "punched into" larger (multi)polygons via tagging. For example, > I am "sort-of-sure" (but not positive) that in Vermont, a "gore" (or grant, >

Re: [Talk-us] Differences with USA admin_level tagging

2017-07-11 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
Kerry, thank you for that/those. I especially like your characterizations of "fun" and "purposefully!" Yet, paraphrasing both Kevin Kenny and Winston Churchill: Let us Carry On and Do the Best We Can! I seldom let the difficulty of a challenge, even at the cost of mistakes from which i can

Re: [Talk-us] Differences with USA admin_level tagging

2017-07-11 Thread Kerry Irons
If all of you want to have some fun with jurisdictional boundaries, take a look at College Corner, OH/IN. It is a village purposefully straddling the OH/IN state lines with the main street being the state line. It has two zip codes, is in three counties (two in OH, one in IN) and school

Re: [Talk-us] Differences with USA admin_level tagging

2017-07-11 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
I'm glad Adam brings up the topic of Gores, as I'm also unclear on how such "holes" get "punched into" larger (multi)polygons via tagging. For example, I am "sort-of-sure" (but not positive) that in Vermont, a "gore" (or grant, location, purchase, surplus, strip...usually the result of

Re: [Talk-us] Differences with USA admin_level tagging

2017-07-11 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
Kevin Kenny writes: 'boundary=administrative' is a surprisingly messy thing at all levels of government. Let's do the best we can. And I am so glad that somebody (else) did! (Write this out loud). Clearly, admin_level generates passion among everybody who has something to say about it.

Re: [Talk-us] Differences with USA admin_level tagging

2017-07-11 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Adam Franco wrote: > On the "Gores" point: In Vermont, while these do not have any administrative > infrastructure and are managed by the State, they are surveyed and named > places with defined borders (shared with their surrounding Towns).

Re: [Talk-us] Differences with USA admin_level tagging

2017-07-11 Thread Adam Franco
On the "Gores" point: In Vermont, while these do not have any administrative infrastructure and are managed by the State, they *are* surveyed and named places with defined borders (shared with their surrounding Towns). As such it likely makes sense to preserve them as multipolygons each with their

Re: [Talk-us] Directions as route relation roles

2017-07-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 9:56 AM, Albert Pundt wrote: > The wiki page Highway Directions In The United States lists a method of > tagging directions in route relation roles that sets the role as the posted > direction of the way in OSM's forward direction. For