Re: [Talk-us] Trunk versus motorway

2018-11-29 Thread Albert Pundt
"Tagging freeway ending/beginnings with this scheme is definitely not standard practice in the US" By "this scheme," do you mean motorway up to intersection or motorway only up to last ramp merge? The former is almost everywhere in the US and I very rarely see the latter. Even after browsing the

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk versus motorway

2018-11-29 Thread Bradley White
> Can I get some voice of reason in > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/64919426? There seems to be quite > a few people (and one AARoads forum troll egging it on) that are trying to > propel the idea that motorways have at-grade intersections, which is > obviously incorrect. I know I'm

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Trunk versus motorway

2018-11-29 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 8:28 PM OSM Volunteer stevea < stevea...@softworkers.com> wrote: > In Santa Cruz, there is about 50 meters of highway=trunk between Highway > 17 (freeway, motorway) and where 17 ends at signalized Ocean Street > (highway=primary). At first I was nonplussed about this

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk versus motorway

2018-11-29 Thread Paul Johnson
I'm largely in agreement and this seems like how it's been done in practice. Would also apply to WA 500 (which also should be a trunk east of I 205, if not at least 112th/Gher; with argument supporting 205 being that 112th/Gher is largely only used by way of it's I 205 North exit and supporting

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Trunk versus motorway

2018-11-29 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
Eric Ladner wrote > That may be more of a note to motorists that "hey.. this freeway is coming to > an end" rather than an absolute marker of "this freeway ends here at this > sign". San Diego's own GIS system has it marked as I-8 all the way up to > where it splits into motorway links at

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk versus motorway

2018-11-29 Thread Greg Troxel
Bryan Housel writes: > Can’t a motorway begin or end at an at-grade intersection though? Certainly, and I think the question is how long does a stretch of road that meets motorway specs have to be to be tagged motorway. The basic issue is that "not having at-grade intersections" is not a local

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Trunk versus motorway

2018-11-29 Thread Eric Ladner
That may be more of a note to motorists that "hey.. this freeway is coming to an end" rather than an absolute marker of "this freeway ends here at this sign". San Diego's own GIS system has it marked as I-8 all the way up to where it splits into motorway links at Nimitz/Sunset Cliffs. Arguing

Re: [Talk-us] Forest Routes

2018-11-29 Thread Paul Johnson
The numbering is consistent only within a single National Forest and numbers will likely repeat even where multiple national forests are contiguously adjacent. The numbers are unique within each individual forest, though. On Thu, Nov 29, 2018, 16:21 Tod Fitch > > On Nov 29, 2018, at 1:28 PM,

Re: [Talk-us] Forest Routes

2018-11-29 Thread Jack Burke
As Paul said, it depends on the type of road. In Georgia, the signage has been the brown keystone one for roads that mere mortal cars can drive on: https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/HD_cjbQunrGWEQCViX-Now And the vertical ones with FS on them for people with more advanced vehicles:

Re: [Talk-us] Forest Routes

2018-11-29 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Nov 29, 2018, 14:14 Kevin Broderick Doesn't the Forest Service use FR for "Forest Road" at the reference? I'd > think that, or NFR to distinguish from state forest roads, would be the > more appropriate ref, as FS is ambiguous (it doesn't distinguish between a > forest road and a forest

Re: [Talk-us] Forest Routes

2018-11-29 Thread Kevin Broderick
Doesn't the Forest Service use FR for "Forest Road" at the reference? I'd think that, or NFR to distinguish from state forest roads, would be the more appropriate ref, as FS is ambiguous (it doesn't distinguish between a forest road and a forest trail). (c.f.

Re: [Talk-us] Forest Routes

2018-11-29 Thread Jack Burke
Oh I am so happy that Frederik brought this up. I've been thinking about this topic for a while, but just haven't said anything. I love the ensuing discussion, too. So, first, the wiki page on now to tag the refs

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Trunk versus motorway

2018-11-29 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Nov 29, 2018, 00:17 Albert Pundt or if the road becomes single-carriageway and isn't a super-2 (a > controlled-access freeway in which only one carriageway is constructed with > accommodation for the second later). > A controlled access single carriageway would also be a trunk, not a

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Trunk versus motorway

2018-11-29 Thread Paul Johnson
Even at the end, that's still an intersection, though. In the real world, there's a transition to be mafe from freeway to that less than freeway situation at the traffic light. On Wed, Nov 28, 2018, 23:02 Evin Fairchild What?! I haven't contradicted myself at all. I already said in my initial >